• jo3rn@discuss.tchncs.de
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    3 days ago

    I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re refering to as vegan, is in fact, GNU/vegan, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus vegan.

  • VeganPizza69 Ⓥ@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    Use the word Vegetarianism. It’s already flexitarian enough for that.

    Ovo-lacto-pesco-pollo-api-carno-copro-vegetarianism. It’s all right there.

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      4 days ago

      They’re always right no matter what! They’re always quick to downplay and deny the evidence that carnism causes harm.

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    4 days ago

    I upvoted your great meme!

    It’s really the Dunn Kruger effect with carnies, they think they know more about the group than the group themselves do.

    The Carnist ministry of truth, ministry of love and the ministry of peace are telling me someone is still “vegan” if they promote animal products in a restaurant or if they consume honey and that’s “debatable” if I argue otherwise, I have since stopped arguing with blatantly biased brick walls. I haven’t seen these so-called “vegan” individuals participate in vegan communities before.

    The lemmy world admins created 2 new polices on the TOS because of the Carnist drama regarding [email protected], they have victimblamed the community saying we’re making ourselves a “target for trolling the admins” even the Reddit admins do not act this biased towards r/vegan.

    Lemmy seems to be more anti-vegan despite the fact the platform likes having more transparency. On Reddit if I talk the same way on r/vegan I do not get questioned the same way here. If I do any kinda of moderating on vegan communities, I’m always accused of power tripping. The southsamurai always smiles to himself every time he gets a chance to denounce the veg*ns. I literally have a group of individuals who follow me to downvote all my posts because they’re extremely bothered that I’m an outspoken vegan.

    Always telling us to “be polite” and to take our protests under ground because they don’t like how they make them feel.

    • Sasha [They/Them]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      4 days ago

      Lemmy’s intolerance of vegans always reminds me of the leftist cooks video “Even leftists don’t talk about animals,” people refuse to apply leftist theory to animal rights and it’s very fucking sad.

      Most leftists are just one step away from consistently applying their theory, but refuse to because they can’t get away from the carnist propaganda that lets them comfortably live with cognitive dissonance.

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      4 days ago

      Thanks, I’m glad someone enjoyed it!

      It’s quite frustrating that carnists think they know what veganism is more than vegans do. Semantic hijacking is the “History is written by the victors” of linguistics. It may be the case, but it’s always kind of ugly. Sometimes you have to chirp up against it, even if it’s just with a silly meme. :)

      And yeah, I know what you mean about Lemmy. It’s weird that it’s actually somehow worse than reddit in this regard. I wonder if part of it is that there isn’t that much content here so nothing really flies under the radar. Stuff that just wouldn’t get seen on on r/all does get seen by carnists here.

      BTW, I always enjoy seeing your posts and playing “guess the ratio” before I look. Sometimes lemmys reactions to them are are pretty hard to predict and leave me shaking my head.

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        I mean, ok? Did someone hurt you recently?

        I think the big bird is right, mostly, but it can be both. You can treat it as a diet and a philosophy. Many words have more than one meaning and context matters, but in most day to day normal conversations the average person is probably going to interpret it as a dietary thing. You can always explain further that to you, personally, it is also a philosophy, but that doesn’t really exclude the dietary aspect. Of course, if you act like this :::gestures upward::: they won’t care because they’ll just think you’re an asshole.

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          4 days ago

          Yes, yes they did. The issue is that non-vegans would rather tell us what they think veganism is, than learn what it actually is.

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            Fair enough, I get it. Been there with far too many topics.

            It just made me think of an old South Park episode where the boys try to redefine the word “fag” to refer to obnoxious motorcyclists instead of gays. So they start using it that way, but the adults around them think they are homophobic, and its confusing all around. The boys know that to them its an insult to obnoxious people, but its misinterpreted because everyone else thinks it means something else. When they finally get to explain themselves fully the gays in town rally with the boys to officially change the meaning of “fag” and I laughed my ass off.

            You shouldn’t get shouted down over semantics, but it still needs to be acknowledged to have a dialogue and educate people. Unfortunately I agree, many people just aren’t open to learning, so uh yeah. That sucks.

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          4 days ago

          Plant-based is the diet and vegan is the philosophy that excludes animal products for ethical reasons.

          Here you’re coming with the rude language. You have no right to talk to them like that.