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  • Drivebyhaiku@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Had an older co-worker who kept saying that Andrew Tate had some real gems and that he was just telling young men to give up videogames and hit the gym if they wanted some self worth.

    So one day I looked him dead in the eye and gave him my best impersonation of a 1950’s radio voice and said. " Young ladies if you don’t work on refining and improving your womanly figure with clean living and labourous exercise and not stop wasting your time reading novels then how will you ever expect to catch a husband?!"

    I would like to say that I scored a point but he just sputtered and went on being horrible.

    • quindraco@lemm.ee
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      8 months ago

      Andrew Tate is the absolute worst, but it is also a fact - one that has been true for all of recorded history - that competing with each other for female attention is a generally popular male motivation. And when a guy doesn’t do those things, he can expect mockery. Do you have anything nice to say about neckbeards? No? Didn’t think so.

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        8 months ago

        You’re being downvoted for pointing out human nature. You’re not wrong, we compete for females. We’re animals, even if people want to lie and claim we’ve progressed. We have not.

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            8 months ago

            Well ya, you’re a freak of nature by literal definition, of course you wouldn’t agree. Humans, like all animals have a drive to reproduce. You don’t have that drive, you’re not relevant.

            You’re going to interpret this literal fact as homophobia too which is kinda funny if you knew me LoL.

        • Clam_Cathedral@lemmy.ml
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          8 months ago

          “Nature” doesn’t have any rigid set of rules that push us to be anything specific, in fact it’s very much the opposite resulting in evolution and adaptation that is constantly interfering with the traits getting passed down. Sure we have biological mechanisms resulting from this that will reward us for things that tend to increase the population over time, because individuals that didn’t were unlikely to reproduce, but even those aren’t consistent from individual to individual, and are regularly suppressed and regulated in response to changing environments as would be seen in nature. Nature is constantly and relentlessly progressing, it’s just slow on a human timescale.

          Science and nature are not forcing you or anyone to be misogynistic, that’s just the excuse many have decided to use so they don’t have to confront themselves or the complicated societal issues behind it.

          • S_204@lemm.ee
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            8 months ago

            Nature has one general rule…procreate.

            That’s why you’re here. Me too.

        • TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
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          8 months ago

          One of the best things taught to me growing up is that you don’t have to prove yourself to anyone. There are shallow people, but why waste time with them? Why not go with people who are more open-minded, have good control to not give into superficial and shallow biological instincts, and will accept you for who you are?

          • S_204@lemm.ee
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            8 months ago

            Yes, we’re all taught that. Our evolutionary instinct is stronger than your teachings, more often than not.

            Open minded people open their legs too. That’s just reality.

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              8 months ago

              Murder and rape is also natural but not everyone does it and we frown upon it. We have laws against it.

              Giving in to instincts that are not productive is showing weakness.

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                Ya, we live in a society and we should place restrictions around our innate nature, we’ve learned about the perils of not doing so.

                That doesn’t in anyway mean it’s not our nature. It’s weird people are offended by this reality.

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                  8 months ago

                  We don’t go on physical fights to win over a women. It’s destructive. How difficult is it to understand? We don’t act on destructive instincts because it’s not productive and, well, destructive.

                  I always say this to others, but you must be with running with a bad crowd to hold such warped view.

                  • S_204@lemm.ee
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                    8 months ago

                    Are you crazy? You ever been to a bar on a weekend?!

                    There’s constantly fights over women. It’s definitely not productive but it’s absolutely reality. WTF world do you live in?

        • tryptaminev 🇵🇸 🇺🇦 🇪🇺@feddit.de
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          So i take it if you fancy a new “female” you kill her previous partner in a fight and then her children with that partner, so she will focuse her attention on the children you make with her. If necessary by raping her? Also if there is no nee females available you will rape and make new children with your own daughters?

          Because that is what animals do.

          • S_204@lemm.ee
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            8 months ago

            Are you trying to use this argument to deny evolution or evolutionary instinct? Cuz your attempted argument makes no sense. Trying to claim humans aren’t driven to procreate is simply contrary to all available information.

            • Are you not understanding that social and cultural evolution is part of evolution and that there might be good reason why not murdering and rapeing each other like animals do, is an evolutionary advantage?

              • S_204@lemm.ee
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                Social evolution is a wonderful thing, it’s not stronger than your biological imperative though. Maybe one day, but that days not today. The guy is still going to chase the virile woman and the woman is still going to seek comfort and safety.