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      The end of the day I won’t blame the young people, though. I will blame the red hat fascists who want to install an orange dictator.

      Edit: Young people get a pass because at least they are passionate about something. I’m over here, dead inside, praying to a computer that things don’t get any worse then they already are.

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    I fucking hate, and from the bottom of my heart, how Biden is funding the genocide in Palestine, but I’m still going to vote for him this time, because we just can’t have a person like Trump in the white house, period. I still can’t figure out how he got in the first time. I’d never let my 10 year old lead a country, yet we let Trump do it for four fucking years. I, too, am sick of this “the lesser of two evils” bullshit, but this time I’m giving it a pass because of Trump. We already have a crumbling country and can’t afford another four years of this dude.

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      “I still can’t figure out how he got in the first time”

      Easy. He was propped up by democrats, namely Hillary Clinton.

      If we reach a point 40 years from now when your choice is between a dem supporting 5 genocides and a republican supporting 10 genocides, are you still going to be militantly democrat and lash out at leftists who are sick of the whole thing?

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        In this hypothetical we wouldn’t have the option to vote 40 years from now because dim bulbs allowed an insurrectionist to be elected. Donald will also accelerate climate fuckery so anyway we’ll be too busy squabbling over what meager food comes out of the remaining arable regions.

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          Purely hypothetical question for you: Would you rather continue supporting Israel or see Biden win the 2024 election?

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            Enjoy the extra genocide Donald “Muslim ban” Trump brings to the conflict and starts up locally. You guys really want him to “finish the job,” huh?

            That’s pretty repugnant IMO, but people like you are privileged enough to watch from afar as others lose their rights and their lives.

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              By not answering the question and participating in the process of this hypothetical choice the outcome is Israel is supported and Joe Biden loses the 2024 election.

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        You think you will still be able to vote in 40 years if Donald “dictator for a day” Trump gets elected this time?

        Oh my sweet summer child. Your vote will be as meaningful as the ones in Russia.

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          So if a Trump presidency means the end of democracy in America, why hasn’t Trump been outlawed?

          Why is Biden focusing on banning TikTok instead of truth social? Why weren’t the courts getting stacked 2 years ago? Why are the democrats’ obsession with “precedent” and “civility” taking more primacy than outlawing a candidate who, by their own admission, would mean the end of democracy?

          By propping up Trump, the democrats have effortlessly oriented you such that you now give blind support to a genocidal regime. You’ve given the democrats a blank check. The democrats would rather lose to Trump and usher in fascism than shift left in the slightest way (halting genocide).

          Also, epic reddit catchphrase my good sir. I tip my hat you, for you are a gentleman and a scholar.

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    They don’t understand that Trump is just as pro-Israel as Biden, if not even more so considering he moved the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem.

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      He absolutely is more so. Also, young people have more power to influence Biden because they are part of his coalition. Of course, using this power is tricky because you need to pressure and criticize Biden without actually making him lose. So far I support the pressure campaign but I hope as the election gets closer people will start to realize what an epic disaster Trump term two would be.

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        “because you need to pressure and criticize Biden without actually making him lose”

        “We need to be toothless about our criticism of Biden” FTFY

        The threat of making your candidate lose is the only power you have to shift them.

        Next time you’re negotiating for a car, see how much the seller budges after you preceed negotiations with “Now, I am fully committed and happy paying sticker price, but how much can you lower the price?”

        Edit: at least have the intellectual honesty to say out loud that Biden could do anything, and you’d still vote for him

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      pictured: the literal reason bernie said these things.

      piss off with your accelerationist bullshit. people are going to die and you are flaunting your privilege by admitting you don’t care when it comes.

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    The lesser of two evils argument only works if at some point you eventually give the people voting someone to vote for who is not evil. When you are forced to vote for evil after a while you lose hope and say screw this I’m not voting at all.

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      People don’t seem to realize that every time they downvote an opinion like this, they’re just further alienating the left.

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        Yeah and downvoting a racist will just alienate them and push them further right, and yet we still downvote.

        While occasionally someone might realize that they are in the wrong, the value of condemnation is in signaling to the community that such views are not tolerated.

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      Young people see America’s glaring hypocrisy and are reacting to it. That is rational. Denying the hypocrisy is irrrational.

      Learn the difference.

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        The only thing their eyes are seeing is enemy propaganda, and they’re taking the bait hook line and sinker.