• Dragon Rider (drag)@lemmy.nz
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    Don’t forget the fake communists bragging that they won’t support genocide and that’s why they’re not voting.

    Hey, socialism angels: do you drive a car? Do you emit carbon dioxide that is projected to cause 1 billion deaths, mainly in poorer countries, by 2050? If so, why do you support genocide? You refuse to support genocide one day every 4 years, but actively participate the other 1460?

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      Yesterday’s John Oliver introduced me to the concept of vote swapping and I am so pissed this wasn’t pushed for third party/protest voters. Basically, if you live in a swing state and absolutely insist on not voting for the Dems, find someone in a blue state who planned on voting for Harris and let them do a protest vote on your behalf, while you vote for Harris on their behalf. Why didn’t I hear about this earlier?! (I live in Germany tho, so maybe it is a thing?)

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        I did this back in 2000. I wanted to vote for Nader but lived in a swing state, so they connected me with someone in a solidly blue state and we swapped votes. And I’m surprised as you that we didn’t do it this time around.

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      You_IRL

      Did you know that with more representative voting systems, people would be free to vote for whomsoever they wish, secure in the knowledge their vote would still be casted against those they don’t want in office?

      I invite you to my asklemmy post to discuss your recent commitment to replacing First Past The Post voting in your state so people can vote freely.

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        Calling out the objectively stupid people who are refusing to vote Harris over Gaza does not make someone inherently against better voting systems. I’m not even sure why you’re bringing that up as if it’s relevant; nobody was talking about it and most people here are for it anyway.

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          Yes, drag very much enjoys voting for the socialist party in drag’s home state, which uses ranked choice voting. Drag can do what americans can’t, because people in drag’s country actually work to make things better, while americans think they can achieve voting reform by refusing to participate in politics.

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        Drag doesn’t drive a car. Drag is improving society somewhat. And drag’s state has already implemented ranked choice voting.

        Drag isn’t arguing against the idea of improving things, drag is complaining that you, personally, don’t do it.

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        Not voting for the lesser evil, thereby allowing the much greater evil to get into power, is not working to improve the system, medieval peasant.

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        Yes we should. Drag is improving the system by not driving a car and campaigning for Harris. You seem to think you can improve the system by ignoring politics and continuing to drive your car.

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          I don’t own a car either but unless we improve public transit and city planning in the US there are situations where not using a car is simply impractical. My city is enormous and while my ebike works for shopping trips and getting to places <20mi away, I can just barely reach downtown and back with it before it dies. If it’s pouring rain, it’s not waterproof and it gets me soaked which is both uncomfortable and a health hazard. There are a lot of activities promoted by leftists in my area that I don’t go to because I would be spending 3 hours in transit to get there and back and I simply don’t have time for that (and Uber is too expensive). There are other places that take 3 hours one way to get to on public transit but 20 minutes by car. Where I live is not at all designed with sustainable transit in mind, and while I don’t own a car here I don’t blame people for wanting to use one. Not to mention I have almost been killed multiple times because the cycling infrastructure here is 45mph 6 line roads with no sidewalk or bike lane.

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              Do you live in a city with sane transit? (Also I put more effort into avoiding cars than basically everyone I know where I live, nobody else I know uses a bike.)

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                  Do you pay taxes? You could choose to just go to jail instead. Do you use a device made with slave labor? You could choose to abstain from technology and not post on Lemmy. Do you work for a corporation? You could choose not to help them do shitty things and not get your basic needs met. If you said yes to any of these you are being hypocritical.

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                    Oh, drag doesn’t actually believe it’s as simple as that. Drag is just repeating what .ml users keep saying in regards to the election. It’s not hypocrisy when drag pays taxes, because drag has a nuanced worldview that admits we’re forced by society to make unpleasant choices. But the average .ml user, who thinks the world is a simple place where you can just choose not to support genocide, is a hypocrite as you point out.