• jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    4 days ago

    You don’t give a shit about queer people’s rights or about brown people getting deported by the millions.

    says who? first off there are far more levers one can pull to support lgbt rights in your home state that are far more effectual than national policies. go focus on those and the presidents support of those issues is not required for their safety.

    as for the deportations, you know what those are not? death sentences. it sucks but the majority of those people will be just fine. they have time.

    you know who doesn’t have time? gaza.

    its okay to admit you’re willing to support a genocide, it makes you a shitty person but its okay. we’ll wait for your to get over the cognitive dissonance.

    as for project 2025: vote down ballot would be an effective counter to that little issue.

    No one cares if you vote for kamala, there are very good reasons to vote for her if you’re in a swing state or a red state. We do care that you’re letting a genocide happen and removeding about the people trying to stop it.

    now your turn: What have you done to help to help stop a genocide? called your reps lately? emailed kamala? or are you just an armchair pontificating? have you even once threatened them with withholding your vote? you know its okay to do so. they won’t know you voted for them in the end. have you responded to any polls saying you wont vote for kamala?

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      3 days ago

      Says me since you’re ignoring the fact that I’m talking about conversion camps for queer people and you are ignoring it and focusing on the deportations. Conversion camps are something the people behind Project 2025 want. And the only way to stop them is to stop them from doing it is to keep Trump out of office.

      “Your daughter probably won’t be put in a concentration camp despite what they’re saying because Trump doesn’t keep all of his promises” is the opposite of reassuring, which is why I’m making sure I’m using my dual citizenship to get her the fuck out of here if she wins.

      now your turn: What have you done to help to help stop a genocide? called your reps lately? emailed kamala? or are you just an armchair pontificating? have you even once threatened them with withholding your vote? you know its okay to do so. they won’t know you voted for them in the end. have you responded to any polls saying you wont vote for kamala?

      My turn? You never said what you’ve done.

      I have spent the entire time this genocide has been going on working with Jewish Voice for Peace to try to stop it.

      Seems like what you’ve done is whine on internet forums.

      Edit: I’ll take it from the crickets that what it seems like is also what is true.

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        3 days ago

        lolol. I dont live on here bud. I’ve been emailing my critters all year over this. including harris’ campaign. I’ve been canvasing for ranked choice voting in my state and looks like we’ll get it in my city soon. I’ve been doing my part to make the democrats electable. I’m very active in my local lgbt+ community, myself and my friends live this shit every day.

        If harris gets elected good for her. I simply won’t support someone actively engaging in genocide just like i pushed for biden to go when all you twits where saying its ‘too late’ ‘we cant switch now’ clearly we could. its too bad harris didn’t get the hint, but thats not my fault; its her inability to change course on a fucking genocide. if zionists have a problem with this well fuck them too and I’d still do what i’m doing for them if the situation was reversed.

        What you’re telling me right now is if harris tomorrow says ‘israel will no longer be allowed to receive weapons support while actively committing a genocide’ you wouldn’t vote for her. you are not worth my time. someday you might figure out by capitulating to the lesser evil only allows these sorts of things to occur. and that you have the ability to stop them.

        Am I going to be insulated from trump if he gets elected? you’re fucking right I am. because in my state we’ve been putting in the fucking effort to build those safety nets. Everyone else If you’re not in a safe state do what you need to do get that level of community safety; including voting for harris, thats perfectly acceptable. but if you’re in a safe state and you’re not raising hell over gaza think long and hard about who you really are as a person, because clearly you’re willing to sell other peoples lives for your own personal comfort. But either way get your ass to the booth and vote for whomever you think best represents your interests.

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          3 days ago

          No, I’m not telling you that because I’ve already voted.

          I do like how you didn’t even acknowledge the work I do with JVP. I wonder if it’s because of the first word in their name?

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            1 day ago

            I didn’t acknowledge your work for JVP because it was almost certainly ‘i signed a petition to feel better about myself’ and not worth discussing. The JVP has basically publish a few feel good opinion pieces and washed their hands on the matter. The organization is focused on defunding settlements from charities. News flash: the current genocide is being funded by tax dollars not charities.

            In short, no it had nothing to do with the name; They’re focused on organizing the jewish community, probably ineffectually, and it’ll take far too long to organize it in a manner that is effective for the current crisis. Especially given the discussions my jewish community has had over the last year. I wish them luck but they’re essentially useless for the current situation and it’ll be awhile before they’re effective.

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              1 day ago

              I didn’t even read past your first sentence.

              If you’re going to lie about me to my face, I’m not going to bother giving you the time of day.