And here I was totally thinking that there would be justice for a black man murdered by the cops this time for sure. For sure.
Even the text description in the article doesn’t sound close to the officers’ testimony. I can confidently say that I have never seen anyone take a cell phone out of their pocket, and thought they were pulling a gun.
When you’re a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
And cops are the biggest tools out there.
The other issue is that they were primed to think he had a gun since they were pursuing him in connection with a shooting. The other problem is he failed to do what most who get killed by cops don’t do, follow their instructions. If they tell you to get on the ground just fucking do it immediately. Doesn’t matter why or what else you think. Follow their instructions to a T and you’re a lot less likely to get injured.
follow their instructions
I’m white.
I have been stopped, at gunpoint, by cops who were both screaming different things ranging from “get off the bike” to “get on the ground”, “turn around”, “face us and walk forward with your hands out”, and “drop your bag” which for the record was strapped to my back with a waist belt on.
Luckily another car rolled up seconds later and when one of the cops inside ran over to them they exchanged a few sentences and then the ones that were pointing guns at me seconds before, one says “you’re good to go.” and the first two leave like nothing happened. The ones that came up a minute behind came over and told me someone was purse-snatched at a specific shoe store across town and fled on a green bicycle 10 minutes beforehand. I was about 6 miles away, and riding a red bike
I fully believe that if the first cops had stopped someone who wasn’t white, or if I had tried reaching for my waist buckle on my bag, they would have opened fire.
LMAO “just follow their orders” what a fucking joke.
Nice anecdote.
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No, watch the video. Reading it leaves room for interpretation.
Nah, they’ll just give contradictory orders and shoot you anyway. Content warning, Daniel Shaver being murdered by cops while doing everything they asked. After watching this, please reply and let me know if your opinion has change, and if not what was done wrong that ended up in his death?
Sure, but have you seen a black guy do it while you’re strapped and desperately waiting for an excuse to start shooting?
Of course! Except that I don’t own a gun, and the excuses for shooting people I’m looking for are neither the same excuses nor the same people as these characters.
But you don’t have weeks of training teaching you otherwise.
Yeah, you got me there. What was I thinking?
How about a wallet? Wallets totally look like guns, am I right?
oh look, reason #1 why police officers do not need to be lethally armed their entire shifts . cowardice humans.
I do NOT want to say this, but….ugghhh….we should take a lesson from the U.K.
We should take lots of lessons from Europe, honestly.
Does Europe consider the U.K. a part of it? Does the U.K. think it’s part of Europe?
The UK only claims that when it suits them.
Albion voted to go fuck itself, so speaking as an European it should go and do that, until it votes to come crawling back and passes a looong vetting process (and this time no weird money, and we get to set the colour of the passports, even though every other member can choose theirs freely).
My take as an American is that they appear to be doing a bang up job with the self-fuckening so far
I mean… just about everything that’s old-world, north of Africa, west of the Urals, and north/west of Istanbul is considered Europe.
The extent of Europe is very broad, with even Iceland being considered a part of it; and it isn’t bound politically. For example, Denmark is considered to be in Europe but Greenland (a territory of Denmark) isn’t, but then again, the Faroe Islands (another territory of Denmark) is.
You might be thinking more along the lines of the EU (European Union) which is the third iteration of the dominant political/economic entity in much of Europe, born in 1993 when it legally became a person. Where the EU actually reaches across the entire globe due to overseas regions, collectives, and municipalities.
Depends on the year and part of the country.
I thought this was a response to my sausage gravy post at first, and I was very confused by the idea of seasonal pork varieties.
Me: Claims to be fearing for my life
Also me: Fires only a single shot
You don’t fire once in a self defense scenario. He knew what he was doing.
Yep.
When you fear for your life you keep firing. at least a few shots, if not emptying the entire mag.
This was an assassination.
Aurora officer. Gotta clarify. There are bad cops and then there are the worst ever, Aurora are in top running for worst and can’t seem (or don’t want) to clean up their shit. They also killed Elijah McClain by commanding medical responders to drug him to death in a scenario that shouldn’t be possible.
Don’t understand why we keep letting these shitstains off.
thinking about elijah mcclain again
Cops are always hiding behind the same lame shield, “the officer fired in self defence”, “the suspect appeared to have a weapon”, “the officer fired when there was a credible threat to his life”…
It’s all fucking bullshit. The officer fired because he was a big fucking removed who was too afraid of black people to do his job, and instead killed an innocent he was supposed to protect.
In war you have rules of engagement, generally it tends to include something like “don’t fire unless you’re fired upon”, as you don’t want to accidentally start a war. That seems like a sensible code to me, and I think it’s pretty crazy that we would say that to soldiers, but not police. A fighter pilot can track another aircraft, knowing full will that it is armed, and if they are not cleared to engage, they still manage to stand down every time. Perhaps police just need clearer rules. Don’t fire unless fired upon, or else it’s murder. That would be clear. Since apparently you can’t take the racist out of the cop, then we can at least take the decision making out of his hands.
Firing because you see someone who might be armed… That’s just deportable, it’s criminally incompetent. I don’t care if you’re afraid for your life, if you were afraid for your life because you thought you saw a gun, quit the force. Today.
when’s the rally
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monday at 5 at the city council