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    “This applies to both sides” How very brave of you to call out the people who drive around with Harris trucks to Harris parties decked out in their Harris jackets and hats, trading AI generated pictures of sexy Harris.

    You know, those things that are real and really happen.

    Look dingbat, calling Trump and his ilk “weird” is not idolizing their opponents, it’s simply calling a spade a spade. If you’re too cowardly to stand up for what you believe in, don’t think trying to slip in a picture of a kitchen magnet is going to make it any better.

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      I buy all my Harris nfts with my Soros bucks they put on my vaxxine microchip every month.

      So easy to pay bills.

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        A miniscule tiny handful of people doesn’t count. There is a total K-hive number of Maga cult in every big city. Not even in the same ballpark.

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          So you at least admit it’s a problem on both sides, you’re just blind to scale. You’re better than most Dems this election cycle at least.

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            Look, I’m not trying to cause a stink here, I just don’t understand what you’re getting at. Are you implying that the amount of Kamala stans is comparable to the amount of Trump stans? Or are you saying that because you can find at least one zealot for each party, this does technically apply to both parties?

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              Either you’re sealioning or you’re purposefully misunderstanding, in either case either hope when Harris either loses or proves she’s more right wing than bush, you get deprogrammed and join us again.

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    Not really. Democrats “idolized” their president so much they basically forced him out of the race for being too old. This applies to one side: Republicans.

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          The dnc who made him the only candidate by threatening to withdraw all funding and kick out of the party everyone that was running against him.

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            The vast majority of sitting presidents run completely unopposed by their own party for re-election to a second term.

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              I was talking about the first time, though yes we should have had a choice this election as well.

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    Not really. I don’t idolize ANY politicians and am happy to criticize even those I vote for when I think they aren’t doing it right. No Dem politician is selling $100k watches etc. because Dems won’t buy them.

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      Apparently, Trump is donating a bridge to all his ultra-platinum preferred choice diamond club voters. If I didn’t dump all my money in Trump’s amazing social media project (some say the best social media company ever), I’d be first up!

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    There are no both sides. The two-party myth is nonsense. But stripper is really do exist.

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        I get what you’re saying, but let’s please all recognize that our binary American choice is one party or the other. That doesn’t mean they are both equal or that the Democratic Party is completely progressive and moral. It does mean that (until we have voting reform) we need to vote against fascism, racism, sexism, and stop the influence of giant corporations damaging our environment for their profits.

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          Really the important thing to remember from his comment here is “stripper is really do exist,” and I think that’s some comfort we can all take in these trying times.

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    That’s an unfair comparison. On one hand you have the lowest of the low within society, someone willing to compromise any morality they might possess and sell themselves for a paltry sum of money, and on the other hand you have hard working strippers.

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    Bernie is idolized on the left for his character, for good reason. And even then, he’s not above scrutiny. When he was investigated for that banking stuff, everyone said “do it”.

    … that’s it. That’s all we’ve got on the left.

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      I don’t like the Bernie love cause it’s hypocrisy. How are we gonna say we want old people out of politics, except OUR old guy. Nah, he’s had his run and anything he could have done by now he would have.

      Frankly I don’t have a problem with him but I did have a problem with people pushing him as president, cause I rather win an election, and Bernie can’t win those. He can’t even get the full support of his own party why would I think he’d be a good president?

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        we should not necessarily want old people out of politics. we should want old policies out of politics, and senile people out of government.

        But if an old politician is mentally and physically fit for office, and brings policies in line with the will of the people, they should be allowed to run.

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          If anything, this election has taught us that we want old people out of office, but only if their name is Joe Biden.

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        I think people on the left love Bernie because there aren’t a lot of terrible skeletons in his closet. There are still a TON of things that Bernie could do that would make me dislike him and not support him. There is almost nothing Trump could do that would make a Trump supporter dislike him and not support him. That’s the difference.

        In other words, admiring someone for their ideals and action is not the same as unconditionally supporting them. No politician deserves the latter.

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        I get the impression it’s different people making each of these conflicting arguments.

        Personally I have no problem with old people being in leadership positions; experience is useful. The problem with the old white men in charge of the USA is that they serve corporations, not that they’re old white men.

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        I voted for him in both primaries. But that’s why I was entirely fine that he didn’t win. The people chose, and it wasn’t him.

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      Pretty much yeah. Dudes aren’t festooning their homes and cars with Kamala signs and hats. Blue colored hats haven’t become synonymous with one particular political group in a party either.

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      Were you not alive a couple months ago when the entirety of dem social media was desperately trying to convince the world a second Biden term was a good idea?

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        You mean a couple months ago when they begged him to stop running and then he did? Yeah, I remember well. The Democrats gave up an incumbent candidate, historically the biggest possible advantage a political party could have, because they knew he obviously was unfit for the task. It’s almost like they base their decisions on reality and common sense instead of fear-mongering bullshit and xenophobia, interesting…

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          They waited until practically the last second, and up until that last second you people were hounding every single person that called for Biden to keep his one term promise constantly saying he was firnfr office and obviously wasn’t too old or too ill or too unpopular. You don’t get to rewrite that history.

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            How is that idolizing him? That’s being strategic and fighting against Trump winning the election. There wasn’t a massive cult movement of people wearing Biden hats and decorating their pickup trucks with 100s of Biden stickers. Biden doesn’t have a personality cult. A lot of people who voted and would have voted for him don’t actually really like him. Still, they realize the importance of not letting Trump win.

            You’re missing the point. Good attempt trying to play “BuT bOtH SiDeS” when it’s the most clear and obvious thing that idolizing a candidate is a largely problem on just one side.

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            Did you also not read all the posts leading up to that on how fucked we were with Biden as the candidate? Nobody was idolizing him.

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            I think that’s more a testament to how unlikeable trump is that people would rather vote for a sentient ham sandwich than that decroded piece of crap.

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            Trump proved his was unfit during his first term, but yet he’s run twice with full support. And I could see him running a third if he fails now.

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            Idk if he’s firnfr office or if he’s covfefe office and idc. Regardless, he’s not running and no one is idolizing him 🤷‍♂️ Trying to say anyone on the left is more undeservedly worshipped than Trump is just downright hilarious.

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          Because no one was idolizing him, it was worry about who would run instead so late in the process. That isn’t idolizing, that is practicality and concern.

          I was one of the people very concerned. I am so very glad to be wrong.

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        Sorry, I’ll rephrase for clarity: it’s only happening on one side. I mean c’mon, the Democrats gave up running an incumbent president because he was obviously not up to the job (read: senile). Trump was never up to the job (read: egomaniacal racist sexist idiotic narcissistic wannabe-dictator) but the Republicans practically broke their necks slipping in their own drool running to nominate him for the third fucking time, even though last time he ran he quite literally tried to start a civil war.

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          Republicans gave up on writing and voting on a party platform because dementia Don can’t decide what he’s for or against, or at least unable to articulate it in any way that isn’t just sane-washing.

          They literally don’t stand for anything anymore except whatever his latest ramblings are.

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            I mean, did he even show up for a single Republican primary debate? I don’t actually know, I get my comedy from podcasts and YouTube videos and stuff.

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          AOC has a lot of people idolizing her in between all the weirdos sexualizing her

          But definitely, the left does that to a lower degree than the cult