• ASDraptor@lemmy.autism.place
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    2 months ago

    See? This is the “with me or against me” rhetoric I was talking about in another post. I never said I want the destruction of Israel. I said that the only reasons why they are still being supported by the international community are those three points, being the most important the fact that the US supports them.

    If that drops, they will have a hard time looking for allies because right now, nobody can in good faith say that they agree with what Israel is doing in Gaza, and if someone was to attack them and the US doesn’t step in, I’m not sure anyone else will.

    That is not saying that I want the violent destruction of Israel, that is stating facts. You might not like them, but that’s how things are right now. Israel has no friends and that is entirely because of how they are behaving.

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      2 months ago

      You are right, that you didn’t directly state you wanted the destruction of Israel. I read it in the subtext.

      Israel’s support in the west has declined over the war in Gaza for sure. However if its existence were threatened support would skyrocket.

      Israel still has lots of friends despite the way they are behaving. The consequences for Israel so far have been some minor sanctions.

      If Israel were attacked on a large scale now, it would absolutely get support by the USA, Germany, India, and other Western countries.

      Who do you expect to pose a military threat to Israel? Jordan and Egypt aren’t interested in a war and are occupied with stability at home. Syria is in shambles. Hezbollah is good at harassing Israel and defending against invasion, but no existential threat. A nuclear armed Iran is the biggest threat and Israel’s main adversary.

      Maybe you can outline a scenario where you see Israel fall.

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        2 months ago

        Simple: We just stop sending them weapons. They are digging their own grave by doubling down in this war and in poking other nations. And they do it because they know that “Daddy US” will cover their asses in case things turn ugly.

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          2 months ago

          Israel can buy weapons from Europe, India, Korea, China just as well. Hell even Russia and Turkey might sell them some stuff. It also has a robust domestic weapons industry and lots of talented engineers.