The entire point of Idiocracy wasn’t that “society might become Idiocracy” it’s that society is always Idiocracy
The thing the movie did was take a “common man” and throw him into a civilization where he is that intelligent compared to everyone else. Like Gullivers Travels, those lands existed before and after Gulliver went there, him going there was just to compare those fictional islands to a reference point the read can identify with.
But right now, for as long as human civilization has existed, and for however long we keep it going…
For some people it’s always been Idiocracy. And there’s literally nothing that can ever be done about that, except making the most intelligent members of a society less intelligent or not members of society
It’s one of the most misunderstood movies and people just fucking love bringing it up.
In order to gain the benefits of society, it may be required to participate in it. Not doing that is how we got what we have today. And participating can be as simple as voting, spending money toward local businesses where you can, or participating in a local club to show support. But you don’t get the utopian society by everyone shelling away from everyone else. People are social creatures whether we want to be or not.
Society can afford some asocial people but not many/a majority. Any society with a growing number of people who can’t handle socializing and being part of/contributing to the group, one way or another, will probably go extinct. I’m not saying you should care (I assume you don’t), I’m just making an observation. 🤷
The comparison is these idiots watched it (or more likely clips of it) and being dumber than the characters in the movie they thought it was a great idea. And here we are.
You can examine and detail and write a library of essays about what the movie really means, but I’m here to tell you it doesn’t matter because they can’t and won’t do any of those things. They are what it is at face value.
You can examine and detail and write a library of essays about what the movie really means, but I’m here to tell you it doesn’t matter because they can’t and won’t do any of those things. They are what it is at face value.
You really don’t notice how that’s essentially what the people in Idiocracy said to Not Sure?
Like, the entire movie is people saying the same thing to him that you just said to me…
So I guess I shouldn’t be surprised it didn’t work, I’m just shocked at how obvious it is but still not getting thru to you.
You are the people who don’t understand it. You are the people making memes about it without understanding it…
Is this something Judge has said? It just seems a little at odds with a lot else in the movie.
Like, some of the last lines are about how the lawyer (I like money!) had 32 kids compared to the 3 smartest children in the world by protagonist and Maya Rudolph.
Cohen: One of the great things about the movie was it was very cathartic because you could just drive around and if anything got you angry it could go right in the movie
And:
Cohen: One of the fun things to disassemble was the notion that evolution rewards the best. Something I was always proudest of was that conservatives thought we were making fun of liberals and liberals thought we were making fun of conservatives.
In the beginning, it talks about how the best people aren’t reproducing enough and that’s why we were sinking. And whoever was watching would assume that it’s people like them that should be reproducing more.
And
Suhrstedt: We literally found a theater, a little bit south of Austin in a suburb, and we had the film of the guy’s ass that we synched up on their projector. And we had probably 200 extras in there. We rolled the footage and everybody started laughing, exactly as they say in the script.
Judge: I remember saying to Tim, “What are we doing? We should just release Ass.”
But just knowing about what intelligence is and how there’s only small slices that are relatively inheirtable.
In families with lots of intelligent people, there’s also a lot of downsides. Its like Targaryens bro. Maybe you get someone really smart, maybe you get someone crazy, and if you’re really unlucky you get a very intelligent mentally disturbed person.
Even for shit that’s clearly inheritable, it’s not that uncommon for one copy of a gene to be better than two.
Like, Judge is relatively intelligent himself, and he does his research. He flat out said he wrote the movie so people would assume theyre the ones that went extinct, and a reason to think that is knowing most people don’t understand basic shit.
The movie was an attempt at getting people to understand his worldview, and I can tell you from experience it’s a very difficult conversation that almost always just pisses people off.
Which is literally the same reason Gullivers Travels was written that way…
But at this point I don’t think anyone actually read that book as a kid.
The first time I got the rough idea was in '96. I was thinking about evolution. In our modern world, pretty much everyone survives, so what would that mean in the long run if you’re talking about purely genetics?
Like yes, there’s stuff that’s based on the modern world, that’s how comedy works (it’d be weird to make a comedy that doesn’t relate to modern day grievances etc) but it really seems like you’re inserting a narrative here or willfully missing the point while claiming everyone else is misunderstanding it.
The entire point of Idiocracy wasn’t that “society might become Idiocracy” it’s that society is always Idiocracy
The thing the movie did was take a “common man” and throw him into a civilization where he is that intelligent compared to everyone else. Like Gullivers Travels, those lands existed before and after Gulliver went there, him going there was just to compare those fictional islands to a reference point the read can identify with.
But right now, for as long as human civilization has existed, and for however long we keep it going…
For some people it’s always been Idiocracy. And there’s literally nothing that can ever be done about that, except making the most intelligent members of a society less intelligent or not members of society
It’s one of the most misunderstood movies and people just fucking love bringing it up.
I thought the moral of the story is that society goes to shit when people choose to “get out of the way” instead of “lead or follow.”
Joe specifically reflects in the film: “I think maybe the world got like this because of people like me. I never did anything with my life."
Okay but what if I don’t want to lead or follow, as both involve dealing with people.
In order to gain the benefits of society, it may be required to participate in it. Not doing that is how we got what we have today. And participating can be as simple as voting, spending money toward local businesses where you can, or participating in a local club to show support. But you don’t get the utopian society by everyone shelling away from everyone else. People are social creatures whether we want to be or not.
I’d rather die of exposure.
Plus I’ve been voting and buying local for
yearsdecades and things just get worse.I may, however, not be human since being social is literally hell
I don’t want to buy or sell or process anything.
Exactly. Just vibes.
I don’t want to buy anything sold or processed. I don’t want to process anything bought or sold. I don’t want to sell anything bought or processed.
Kickboxing. It’s the sport of the future.
Society can afford some asocial people but not many/a majority. Any society with a growing number of people who can’t handle socializing and being part of/contributing to the group, one way or another, will probably go extinct. I’m not saying you should care (I assume you don’t), I’m just making an observation. 🤷
Okay good so I don’t need to do anything.
That’s a personal decision. 🙃
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The comparison is these idiots watched it (or more likely clips of it) and being dumber than the characters in the movie they thought it was a great idea. And here we are.
You can examine and detail and write a library of essays about what the movie really means, but I’m here to tell you it doesn’t matter because they can’t and won’t do any of those things. They are what it is at face value.
You really don’t notice how that’s essentially what the people in Idiocracy said to Not Sure?
Like, the entire movie is people saying the same thing to him that you just said to me…
So I guess I shouldn’t be surprised it didn’t work, I’m just shocked at how obvious it is but still not getting thru to you.
You are the people who don’t understand it. You are the people making memes about it without understanding it…
You’re the people you’re complaining about…
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Idiocracy is the 1984 for people who can’t be bothered to pretend to read books
Is this something Judge has said? It just seems a little at odds with a lot else in the movie.
Like, some of the last lines are about how the lawyer (I like money!) had 32 kids compared to the 3 smartest children in the world by protagonist and Maya Rudolph.
So…
You think in Gullivers Travels, all those crazy islands were true?
Or do you think like that story made stuff up to illustrate a point to the readers, that Judge also made the story easier to relate to?
Like, he could have just set in modern day.
Instead he had made it explicitly clear that he was starting with someone everyone could identify with
Like, I kind of assumed everyone read that as a kid, I’m starting to think it’s not as good of a reference as I thought
Not everything is Gulliver’s travels.
Judge makes an explicit argument and chooses to end the movie reinforcing that specific point.
What in the movie leads you to your conclusion?
And:
And
https://www.inverse.com/entertainment/idiocracy-oral-history-mike-judge
But just knowing about what intelligence is and how there’s only small slices that are relatively inheirtable.
In families with lots of intelligent people, there’s also a lot of downsides. Its like Targaryens bro. Maybe you get someone really smart, maybe you get someone crazy, and if you’re really unlucky you get a very intelligent mentally disturbed person.
Even for shit that’s clearly inheritable, it’s not that uncommon for one copy of a gene to be better than two.
Like, Judge is relatively intelligent himself, and he does his research. He flat out said he wrote the movie so people would assume theyre the ones that went extinct, and a reason to think that is knowing most people don’t understand basic shit.
The movie was an attempt at getting people to understand his worldview, and I can tell you from experience it’s a very difficult conversation that almost always just pisses people off.
Which is literally the same reason Gullivers Travels was written that way…
But at this point I don’t think anyone actually read that book as a kid.
Like yes, there’s stuff that’s based on the modern world, that’s how comedy works (it’d be weird to make a comedy that doesn’t relate to modern day grievances etc) but it really seems like you’re inserting a narrative here or willfully missing the point while claiming everyone else is misunderstanding it.