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      The reason they don’t like it is because they’re the ones responsible for the systematic injustices, and they’re in denial about it.

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      Their stance is essentially that racism, sexism, etc. is dead, therefore belaboring it is akin to McCarthyism hunting for KGB spies from the dead USSR.

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        Their stance is essentially that racism, sexism, etc. is dead,

        Racism is dead. Now let’s blatantly redraw district lines to ensure the absolute disenfranchisement of voters based solely on race

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          They do, but it’s rare because they think it’s common sense.

          Liberals, leftists, and others maligned by the abuse of the word “woke” also don’t usually explain why that isn’t a bad thing, because to us it’s common sense.

          In a word phrase? Echo chambers.

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      I always enjoy seeing old school examples of “wokeness”, and while I’m the farthest thing from patriotic I like seeing the fighting of prejudice framed as a patriotic duty as well

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        you know, that shit felt so good when we were young and being patriotic didn’t mean we were self serving everyone hating bastards :)

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    My one critique on this countermovement is, I don’t like saying “It’s not woke!” Of course it’s woke - woke is a good thing. Woke means “I GET how shit is.”

    The implied words by these grifters have been “woke…and being super naggy and preachy about it, and making all white men feel bad.” When I watch a movie like Django Unchained, and see a former slave slaughtering a bunch of slavers, I don’t feel preached to. I don’t get a sense it’s trying to make me feel bad. I just think: Yeah, man, fuck these slavers. I resolve to make the next generation better than them. And also: I’m glad this slight poetic statement on slavery was wrapped into a tense, action-packed, entertaining movie.

    They tried this shit with feminism, diversity, equal opportunity, and every other word and term we like. Always inventing some context where all of them are bad. I don’t much like the retreat of saying “No no, this media isn’t woke!” Of course it’s woke! And that’s a good thing! People who hated “woke” need to take the L and wake up.

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    It kinda is a targeted political agenda, but not all targeted political agendas are evil.

    “Hey can you stop being a piece of shit and instead choose to be kind?” is the targeted political agenda, which is highly offensive to pieces of shit.

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    They were never gonna like an adaptation of Superman that was true to the source material. Of course Superman is woke. That’s always been the point of Superman.

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          Im sorry, darling, but he is first and foremost a fighter of crime… like any other super hero. And who fights crime? Cops. Superheroes are supercops.

          And lets not forget that he is a tool of american imperialism and american exceprionalism. Nothin’ woke 'bout that.

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            The police use fighting crime as a pretext for the protection of capital and the oppression of minorities, their actual functions.

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              I agree with that, but this pretext is the reality in superhero stories. Cops are portrayed as the good guys, and superheroes collaborate with them if anything.

              Cops and superheroes share this; They fight crime. And so if we imagine a child reading superhero comics, they will most likely think; I also want to fight crime! And who in our society fights crime? It’s the cops.

              Superheroes are a constructed reality to turn children into cops.

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      Or something they know they they can’t respond to adequately. Which, is almost everything

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      usually its a placeholder for BIGOTED WORD, like N word, the deragotory trans word, or any anti-POC word or straight up misogyny. you see this most in current movies and SHOWS. such as referring to ANGELS as masculine in nature, while they are GENDERLESS for the most part. when its not referring to super specifc media like DCU.

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    This is a fair point, but I’m still calling it “Woke Superman” because it’s funny.

    Sitting around:

    “Hey, wanna watch Woke Superman?”

    “That the one with the dog wearing a cape?”

    “Yes.”

    “Yeah, put it on.”

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    woke by definition doesn’t have a definition. It’s all the things that the lib-left does that the right doesn’t like, and that’s it. Any time we do something that they deem ‘too far’ or ‘too ridiculous’ they just label it as woke and stop thinking further. It’s a method of other-ing that allows them to not have to think about their bigotry.

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      Not so sure about that, given that he still allows billionaires to exist in his universe…

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    Woke continually redefined in each subsequent new version of the newspeak dictionary.

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    It means “politically correct”, but users don’t want to admit they’re incorrect so they made up bad grammar instead.

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      But doesn’t “politically correct” means not saying nasty truths? Like saying that Trump just “abused kids” instead “raped kids”.

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        I see it as a scale from extremely polite to extremely offensive, where you just try to stay polite while being honest. I think the federal and provincial PMs, and the mayors aI know, have been good at this. Listen to the Canadian or UK Parliements, they even have strict rules to keep things in order.

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          Personally I have mixed feelings.

          On one side - I consider being polite to be basic decency.

          On the other side - I feel like this “do not call it murder, call it unaliving” and such are just lies by omission of a word.

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            In my view, “unalive” is just as useless a word as “woke”. Pre-MAGA federal politics could be politically correct without either of these new “words”. We don’t need federal politics to observe this. Anyone can visit their municipal debates and watch counselors and mayors being politically correct with each other. At least in my experience. The shock value language is mostly used by news-like outlets to make headlines and public attention.

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              My local counselors and mayors do not use english at all, so I know “political correctness” and “woke” only as english phenomena from media.

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            On the other side - I feel like this “do not call it murder, call it unaliving” and such are just lies by omission of a word.

            That’s not woke. That’s circumventing algorithm bullshit.