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    Yes, I would feel totally safe in a country where every idiot can get weapons.

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      In Florida you don’t even have to prove to the state you can safely handle a gun to have a concealed weapon on you

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    You know in this particular situation I don’t think the car was the main problem.

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      Yeah, it could be because of our car culture, not the cars themselves. Or maybe it’s just good old fashioned lack of mental healthcare.

      People spend SO much money on their damn cars, and often treat them both like a second home and a part of their personality.

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      *Attempted

      The 42-year-old man, who could not be reached immediately by the Sun-Times, was shot once in the left leg and was taken to Stroger Hospital where he was in good condition, officials said.

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    Carry a few used AA batteries instead and throw them at the back window after they’ve passed. That way you have time to get away.

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      200g weights, they’re used for calibrating measuring instruments. Fits in the palm of your hand, weighs about a half pound. I think 1 will run you like 8 bucks, and you don’t have to waste a battery.

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        Dead AAs don’t cost anything. They are otherwise headed to recycling or a dump. And they fit nicely in you pocket most of the time.

        Broken spark plug ceramic works even better and will shatter tempered glass, but if cops catch you with it they might know what it’s for. The batteries are plausible pocket stuff.

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          Yeah cops will definitely recognize ninja rocks, I’m just not sure a double A will carry enough weight to break a car window.

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    I personally use my car keys to scrape any car that gets in arms reach while i’m crossing a crosswalk

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    Not defending the shooter, he definitely had a severe over reaction to the situation. But dude had no fucking survival instincts. Why would you kick the 2 ton box of metal, powered by explosions and driven by someone who clearly doesn’t care about your safety? In the land driveby shootings no less.

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      Because the dude didn’t live a life of constant fear. He was a human being that almost got badly injured on a crosswalk, so he showed unregulated emotion, probably not with the intend of starting a fight for life or death, most probably because he did not think every other person is a psychopathic maniac.

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      I see what you’re going for, but there are a couple things;

      1. The shooter shouldn’t have had a gun or the license to drive. If his mental state was that hair-trigger it’s a travesty that this combination of elements was allowed to happen.

      2. What other response would have been appropriate? Are you suggesting we should just passively allow bullies to do whatever they want?

      So, more or less — no. If you think the appropriate reaction to almost being hit by a car is to throw your hands up and run away screaming, that’s the appropriate action for you. Not everyone is going to respond the same way, and being mad/lashing out about almost being critically injured is a perfectly reasonable response.

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        Well, choosing not to kick cars that belong to clearly dangerous people has never gotten me shot.

        Honestly, I think choosing to move on is absolutely the best course of action. Kicking the car in some act of vengeance, or expression of (even justified) anger isn’t going to make things better but it might make things worse. That bullet could’ve hit anyone in the vicinity, and even if dude hadn’t pulled a gun, the car he was driving is just as deadly and has plenty of potential for collateral damage.

        Like I agree with you that the shooter definitely shouldn’t be driving with that mental state of his, but just because he’s in the wrong doesn’t make it right to escalate things such that everyone around you is in danger too.

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          escalate things such that everyone around you is in danger too.

          No — there’s no escalation past the guy almost hitting someone with his car. That is the point of escalation. If anything, kicking the car is a deescalation — because escalation would mean trying to kill the driver. Whether that’s shooting them, beating them to death, whatever. Because that is literally the level they were brought to by the driver/ shooter.

          You’re essentially victim blaming by trying to suggest that the guy who kicked the car contributed to the escalation.

          That being said, of course the best course of action is to leave. Not everyone is ok with almost dying and not giving the person who did it a piece of your mind. Unfortunately it played out like it did.

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            I mean, his death is not his own fault, and I’m not trying to say otherwise. This was murder, plain and simple. But kicking the car was still stupid, pointless and dangerous. Encouraging other people to follow this guy’s example is pointless, stupid, and dangerous.

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              Encouraging other people to follow this guy’s example is pointless, stupid, and dangerous.

              Absolutely not. If I were to extrapolate from your logic and follow it I’d never go outside because clearly the intelligent and safe thing to do is just never go outside.

              Seriously, you are just wrong here. There will never be a world where kicking someone’s car after they almost hit you with it warrants being shot. It should not even occur to you to be something you can’t do, it is that far below the point the driver/shooter had already brought it to. To call it escalation means that you either don’t understand the meaning of the word or have alterior motives for dying on this hill.

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      humans stuck together against apex predators to get to the point were we are today. I say we bring back the T-rex rarhhhh… We need apex predators or we get bored and kill ourselves

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        I know a few Dutch drivers who would peobably run over a guy if the guy was the one actually violating the rules then sue the guys family too lol

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            No joke, heard a story of a guy that had a gun stolen from is car. Lamenting it because it was a expensive piece with modifications to is appearance that he liked. When asked what happened, he left it on the fucking dashboard in plain view. Didn’t even attempt to hide it at the least. Just out there for all to see. I like firearms as a preface, I think they’re neat and do serve some purposes but, the careless and frivolous nature of how we consider them in the USA is one of the reasons gun violence is so high.

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              On the bright side, if your car ever gets stolen, cops will be really invested in finding it if you tell them your gun was under the seat. Cops generally don’t care about stolen vehicles. They tend to take an “eh, it’s probably already in a chop shop” approach. But if you tell them your gun was in the car, they’re suddenly a lot more invested in finding it.

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        guns aren’t common glovebox item in CIVILIZED SOCIETIES

        America is a removed full of assholes and bullet holes

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      A lot the world does, however, have to live with the constant threat of being bombed by our military or a military that our taxes fund.

      Almost like the violence we export to other countries comes back home to our own culture and society.