• bi_tux@lemmy.world
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      8 months ago

      I tend to disagree for following reasons:

      - freedom ends where someone elses freedom begins

      - no one said freedom was save

      - people don’t stop to murder other people without guns

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        8 months ago

        Empty words from someone that does not understand how countries with less guns still work and don’t have CHILDREN KILLING IN THEIR SCHOOLS ALL THE TIME

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          Sweden and Canada have pretty high rates of gun ownership and don’t have this problem. That said American school shootings are not as common as they are made out to be, there has been a lot of statistical fudging to make it look so much worse than it is.

          What all three countries do have are problems with gangs and they’re only getting worse as poverty drives people to crime. America has it worse because it has more poverty, but we will all catch up soon enough.

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            School shootings aren’t a gang problem, and school shootings are way more common in the US than any other developed country.

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        Its a joke, don’t think too hard about it.

        Freedom as a concept is to vague and personal to be useful any kind of real discussion; “freedom” means whatever you think it means. This is why politicians love to say it.

        I would say that you’re right guns make people feel safe.

        However, that the constant threat of violence in society leads to degradation of social norms, especially for children who then get less socialization and become more extreme.

        You see this in like more people choosing to homeschool their kids - they then get lower quality education and poorer social skills and are less able to survive in society. In a capitalist world, this is slowly eating away the ability of americans to compete in a global economy and so there is a strong movement to isolate our economy which will only make us less competitive.

        • Gnome Kat@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          I would say that you’re right guns make people feel safe.

          I just wanted to say that guns absolutely do not make me feel safe, knowing one is nearby or seeing one makes me incredibly anxious. Holding one even more so. I don’t understand how people can feel safe around them, to me it’s like having a ticking time bomb in the room but the timer was set by a rng.

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            8 months ago

            That’s fine if you feel like that. And YOU should stay away from them and I fully support your desires and rights to do so. But others don’t feel the same.

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    Tho I support gun ownership, this guy has no business owning a gun

    “If you are a [in my perception] a communist, you don’t wanna step on my lawn” === “If I don’t agree with you, I’ll shoot you”

    Plus anyone saying “communist states” is definetly fallen victim of right wing propaganda and haven’t even take the time to research what communisim is. Even the US left political wing is quite capitalisitic.

    Just a bunch of bad “arguments” bagged up with slapsticks words which he doesn’t even know the meaning of.

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    8 months ago

    And here my friends, we can see an exhibit from the United States of America.

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    8 months ago

    I watched the video. He says that if you support FOSS you should support guns, but never once advocates for guns to be free.

    He says the problem is that politics are tribal, and people are simply in their corner, cheering for their teams - without acknowledging that there are Americans that want different levels of gun control, and there are reasons that people want gun control outside of tribal politics, and there are Republicans/conservatives/gun enthusiasts that have nuanced opinions, and support things like red flag laws and certain gun control policies.

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      He’s a troll trump supporter, which is all anyone needs to know. If there are 9 regular people at a table and a nazi sits down, and all that.

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    I knew something was off, I never really could watch his channel for some reason. This is one more hint that my intuition wasn’t wrong.