You equated the most open social media platform to a private institution. That’s a new take for sure.

yeah, but like i said, the internet isn’t really comparable to the public though. You can just go outside, you can’t really just go on the internet, for one thing you have to pay for it, and for another thing whatever entity you engage with on the internet, is a private entity, be it reddit, lemmy, twitter, it’s all private, lemmy is just privately owned by uber nerds.

There is no “social good” on the internet, it doesn’t exist.

Notice how you described yourself as a queer rather than just saying you’re a fag? It’s just not that useful in common speak.

i think that’s probably my phrasing, but this is a little presumptive. And to be clear, the reason i used queer in that sentence instead of fag is the same reason you use shit/fuck/removed/dick in different situations.

If i came here to shitpost and not have a genuine discussion my entire conversation would’ve been “yeah and im a fag too get fucked lmao” and i wouldn’t have said anything else beyond that because it would’ve made my point.

Also did you really just say it’s okay to use a fag in an ironic way doesn’t downplay it’s original meaning, it just perpetuates a way for those naive to get hurt. Like young autistic people will struggle with these things growing up.

i believe i said it was ok to use it in an ironic way, because it’s being used that way now. I think there is probably a way to use it fine in a genuine manner, but that’s a completely different context as well. And probably not fucking around and joking with friends.

i also believe that downplaying a words meaning collectively is a good thing, a word being less offensive, is objectively good for society. And in turn with this, if the primary issue here is kids/teens, we should be educating them on how to joke around with these things, and how not to be an asshole to other people, rather than not using this word generically.

I guess ladderpulling is okay once you have what works for your needs but not other’s though.

i’m for pulling the ladder out from under homopobes and the words they use, as well as most other people like this.

What i’m not for is leaving the ladder available for anybody wishing to be offensive to other people.

Your whole ideology seems to be at conflict with itself. I stopped caring about this conversation.

i mean maybe, but the only reason why shit is offensive at the end of the day is due to the broad social acceptability of the thing it’s directly relating to. When things are more socially acceptable, these things stop being as offensive, the only reason they’re ever offensive is because of the intent behind them. But when you have a significant enough social pressure against something, the very force behind that term starts to supersede the term making it appear as if the term itself is actually bad, where as it’s just the social influence behind it.

Queerness is vastly more acceptable today socially, than it was thirty years ago. Trans people today are experiencing similar shit to what gay people (and trans people back then) were experiencing. That’s the reason that specific subset is so directly threatened.