• humble_boatsman@sh.itjust.works
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    14 days ago

    This is a bat shit premise. Why not focus on reducing dependency. Not just surprise! you can’t live your current existence without a car!

    • Panini@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      14 days ago

      That was sorta the intended result here, to emphasize that to move away from cars without heavily sacrificing their QOL, most people need better public transportation and non-car options than their city is currently providing them. So the city needs to make changes to reduce dependency.

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        14 days ago

        sure, but we deliberately chose a place we didn’t need a car, across the road from Harbour town on the Good Coast, never had an issue with traffic. A friend chose to live in bumfuck on the other side of the Freeway and complained endlessly about traffic.

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    Yeah I haven’t driven to work since COVID. We have WFH. I take transit into the city a few times a year. The time I had to drive into work to exchange a monitor, I hated it. I couldn’t believe I was doing that daily before.

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      14 days ago

      lived on the Good Coast over Covid. sold our car, rented the two car parks in our apartment complex, covered the cost of our body corporate fees and more. Walked, cycled, tram, train and bus where super easy. My GF used her electric scooter to get to work. Was awesome.

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    living in Berlin Germany and most of my friends never had a car nor a driver’s licence. just build the right infrastructure and people stop being dependent on cars, simple as that.

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      Went to high school in Berlin, my favorite city, and if I lived there now I think a car would be a real annoyance. Expensive. Narrow streets. Lousy parking. There are so many ways to get around: walking, bicycling, bus,street car, subway and infrastructure for all of those things. If you really need a car you can always call an Uber or taxi.

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          Absolutely. They have bike paths and even little traffic lights for them. The city is huge but you can put a bike on a bus, at least some of them.

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            13 days ago

            I’m always envious of people who have access to this in the places where they live.

            I live in my country’s second best bikeable city and it leaves A LOT to be desired; but I used to live on the best bikeable city and that taught me that there’s much to be desired for bikeable cities in the United States.

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                it’s not that we prefer to; it’s that we’re forced to when our governments refuse to fund public transportation.

                oddly enough; in this country; only the wealthy or privileged have access to public transportation whose benefits are competitive with driving.

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                  Yeah I live here but I think you are only partially right. I was at a mall back in the day with some friends and we all decided to see a movie. They all literally drove across the parking lot rather than walk.

                  I live in the suburbs and despite riding my bike a lot, I simply couldn’t get by without a car.

  • CurlyWurlies4All@slrpnk.net
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    14 days ago

    I was 100% car free when I lived in London and Melbourne, but outside of the major cities there’s so little investment in public transport, (particularly in Australia) it’s almost impossible.

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    I live in Brisbane and don’t own a car or drive (by choice). But because I don’t own a car, and never have, I have never lived somewhere where it’s an issue. There are plenty of places in the city that don’t have useful or easy connections…

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    If the city I lived in was designed for it I would sell my car the very next day, but in the current state of it it’s both very impractical and very dangerous