• Icalasari@fedia.io
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    3 months ago

    Honestly, I had forgotten about Kamala when arguing that Biden was the best bet. My argument always lay in, “Needs to be familiar because Trump has this uncanny ability to swamp somebody without a track record”, and I completely forgot Kamala fit that exactly in the same way Biden did - By being a VP

    SO glad I was wrong, too - It was a lot of me groaning, “Oh god Biden is our best bet dear fuck no…”

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      3 months ago

      I think I let myself be misled about the urgency of having a candidate ready and the time for campaigning. Meanwhile, other countries gear up their elections in less than a month.

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        Many of us misled ourselves about the “obligation” or “strategic advantage” of there always having to be a two-term attempt. The fact that Joe chose Kamala as VP, and decided to retire after one term, speaks VOLUMES about why I trusted and trust him as president and as a fellow human, and how it pissed me off to hear people saying that both parties are the same.

        Anyway… Joe Biden’s legacy will now most certainly be a positive one. As I knew it would be.

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          Yeah. He’s never going to be remembered as positively as Obama, Obama was a cultural phenomenon and remains one of the best orators alive, but he will likely be remembered as a man who genuinely held beliefs and cared about his country enough to grow and change with the times. Biden was the president we didn’t necessarily want but aren’t mad to have had anyways.

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      It was that plus the “if Biden drops out it will be a whole ordeal establishing a new candidate.” It wasn’t. It was quick, painless, and even the VP choosing was relatively quick and made people happy.

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      3 months ago

      You’re still completely missing the point.

      It could have been Tim Walz and no one knew his name before Biden dropped.

      The “name recognition” is just bullshit.

      99.99% of what neoliberals say they dont even believe, they just say whatever gets them what they want

      They wanted Biden, so they just spewed diarrhea onto keyboards throwing everything at the wall hoping something will stick.

      But they knew all along that Biden was the worst option, they were just willing to risk trump again than anything a smidge to the left more than Bidens 82 year ass.

      Please learn the lesson this time, they’ve been doing it for decades, and show no signs of stopping

      The most conservative wings of a political party almost never are on the same side of the rest of the party. Please, for the love of God stop fucking falling for it.

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        3 months ago

        This is garbage discourse towards someone who literally said they are adjusting their perspective.

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            3 months ago

            Good for you, print it out or something.

            No need to be so toxic to those you’re speaking to, it fails your point and ruins whatever platform you argue from.

            I’m not saying IM of some high position, mind you.

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              I didn’t even mention neoliberals smugness…

              But I don’t need anymore examples, and I know y’all love the last word. So feel free to reply to any of my comments you see. You’ll always get the last word now

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      3 months ago

      I wasn’t on board with Kamala until she picked Walz as her running mate. I was honestly going to vote for Vermin Supreme until then.

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        Imagine if all the undecideds went to Vermin Supreme and he actually won… better than Trump of course, but wow