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So, ICE is scared that aggressive untrained people will use deadly force against them, and that afterwards the government will do nothing about it?
That’s pretty much how everybody else has felt about ICE for a long time.
That pig was was recording while reaching for his gun, it looks like that video was meant as a trophy.
Breaking: ICE is afraid that Americans will start exercising their second amendment rights to protect their first and fourth amendment rights from a tyrannical pedofile protecting uncontrolled secret police
That’s why civilization exists you dumb fucks. You start tearing it down and violence is all that’s left.
Eh, can’t say I agree with Thomas Hobbes on this. ICE is acting in the exact opposite of the state of nature, they’re the violent arm of the sovereign
That’s a blatant misunderstanding of what a Hobbesian sovereign is. According to Hobbes, a sovereign is a form of body politic derived from the consent of the governed. People form civilizations, understanding that by abiding by common agreements they can mutually improve the conditions and circumstances of their lives. Everyone is safer when we agree not to kill each other, and anyone who violates that norm loses the protection of the social contract. Hence, capital punishment as a penalty for murder.
What ICE is doing is violating the social contract and acting without the consent of the governed (bypassing congressional approval/oversight, ignoring established laws and constitutional rights, etc.). In effect, they’re regressing us back to the conditions of the state of nature in which “might makes right” and “survival of the fittest,” conditions which the social contract originated in order to overcome.
That Goebbels-looking-ass dude literally said “might makes right” on a live TV interview.
Which is why I won’t feel any sympathy for him when someone finally gives him his comeuppance
Time to show them just how fit they really are.
And why thr Geneva conventions exist.
MAGA: We broke society, so now we can point at a broken society as an excuse for violence.
We live in a society
I’m not sure that’s true anymore.
Was your comment intended to suggest a better term than “civilization” was “society”? That is probably a valid correction and I need to brush up on my vocabulary before I have angry anti fascism outbursts on the interwebs.
ICE was the reason why I did not visit the US. Now it is ICE and the unbelievable violation of privacy at the border.
The collection of biometrics all over the world that went from being something you needed at least serious suspicion of to being extremely common and routine for literally everything is just shit.
Exactly this, I was supposed to be in the US for work. I had everything prepared and then this shit show started.
It’s almost as if they’re projecting since they know that it’s standard practice for them to jump in front of moving vehicles so they have an excuse to open fire and claim self defense.
They’re literally accusing people of what they have been doing for at least a decade now.
I seriously doubt you’re making it to the jury stage of the trial if you open fire on police
Renee Good didn’t open fire on police and still didn’t make it to a jury trial. When unarmed, peaceful people are executed as though they’re violent protesters, there’s no longer any real reason to be unarmed, peaceful people.
This federal government wants people to open fire on police. This would justify a further police state, martial law, and cancelling the midterm elections that they’re definitely on pace to lose disastrously. Natural causes is taking its sweet time, but even if it weren’t I don’t think the next guy would change a thing unless his owners told him to.
Protesters also don’t deserve to be executed
Agreed, but they’ll try to argue that violent protesters could kill thousands of innocent people, so killing them is the morally right thing to do. Here, they’re arguing that Renee Good was a domestic terrorist that was using her vehicle as a weapon to try to kill the ICE guy, even though it’s blatantly obvious that that’s not what was happening in the slightest.
I’m just saying that they’re escalating. They’re hoping that people either stay home because they’re afraid of being executed just for being outside, or retaliate and permit them to escalate further. And even an extreme retaliation will not eradicate the fascism, so I’m not sure what the right move is now that we’re at this point.
They will escalate regardless of what we do. They already have been.
How’s work?
They got us shooting women now
How’s the pay?
Well there’s a bonus if you’re wanting in
How’s the hours?
We shoot them in the daylight
And then we steal them away in the dark of the night
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible. They make violent revolution inevitable
- JFK, 1962
ICE aren’t police
There is zero ideology gap between cops and ice.
Law enforcement then?
They are not that either.
Well, they should be worried.
GOOD.
Your constitution means nothing it seems people in power wipe their arses with it and citizens barely defend it handing over more and more freedoms every year. Ice clearly isn’t about that they sold it to you as.
Well well well, if it isn’t the consequences of my own actions
Noo, people would need to have the balls to actually do it…
Unfortunately this is satire, and not consequences of their actions. I wish it was real though.
We should call it the Good Initiative
Shoot ICE. On sight.
If they’re just shooting random moms in minivans then nobody is safe.
Well yeah that’s kind of how rules and laws are supposed to work.
That’s kind of the entire purpose of having a system of government. If a government doesn’t exist to protect the people who pay for it, what’s the point of it even existing?
Pretty sure the people intentionally destroying the U.S. are aware of that, but it’s always kind of a head scratcher to learn the people that are carrying out their orders have been so busy goose-stepping and commiting crimes on their behalf, they haven’t really picked up on it.
I’m really not sure why I have to explain to other adults that we all benefit as a society from a system that promotes equality and protects the majority from harm and exploitation.
When you help these people in their never ending war on equality, you’re helping to further cement a system of government that enables exploitation and removes any expectation of protection for the majority.
That is what you’re working towards on behalf of a billionaire class. A world where they’re protected by the system, but we’re all expendable, including you. That is what people mean when they call you class traitors. If that term offends you it’s probably because you’re not understanding or recognizing your own exploitation.
You’ve handed over civil rights and civil liberties for the “freedom” to participate in a caste system which protects an overclass you will never be part of. Your sole purpose in the system is to help keep them propped up above the rest of society by enforcing their rules and acting as cannon fodder that serves to insulate them from the rest of the masses.
Mudsill Theory
Sounds like Karl Marx to me, polarity reversed.
Anyhow I like what this person had to sing about it:
Keep you doped with religion and sex and TV
And you think you’re so clever and classless and free
But you’re still fucking peasants as far as I can seeAnd this one too.
That’s why it’s called the Marxism of the master class
The thing is, they view it as a fair trade to support that in exchange for the opportunity to be a part of that system. They might not be the galactic emperor, but they don’t seem to mind being a stormtrooper. Everyone else is just peasants and rebel scum in their eyes.
To them, they’re high enough on the social hierarchy to have plenty of people to look down on, and that’s all they need to feel better about themselves.
True, but they shouldn’t act so surprised when they find themselves thrown under the bus. They probably always will, but again, it’s because they’re too ignorant to recognize their own exploitation.
They figure as long as they’re the ones driving the bus, they won’t be the ones getting caked in the tire treads…
Special snowflake syndrome must be a hell of warm and fuzzies drug.
ICE officials worried citizens may treat them the same way they treat people. Welcome to bizarro land.
This may be satire but it does really capture that casual assumption they seem to share that everyone else has the same lust for violence that they do. Most people have to be pushed pretty far to even consider violence, especially lethal violence. For them it seems like every conflict is an opportunity to violently escalate and prove their strength.
Knowing nothing about this outlet this seems more like wish casting than satire tbh. It’s just not absurd enough to be joking, other than the idea that top ICE officials would be worried about consequences.
