• Carrolade@lemmy.world
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    Biden’s past decisions suggest that he could commit U.S. troops on Israel’s behalf

    I highly doubt that. Parking an aircraft carrier and flying some jets is one thing. Intercept some rockets, whatever. We have no treaty obligation to defend them with ground forces, though, and they’ve been in quite a lot of wars where we could have if we felt like it, but chose not to.

    I simply see nothing in it for Biden or the US. Something would have to be in it for us. Israel isn’t even being threatened with destruction this time, Hezbollah doesn’t have the size or strength and Iran is two countries away.

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      I simply see nothing in it for Biden or the US.

      Geopolitically, no. But don’t underestimate the amount of people that believe Israel must be defended at all costs so the end times may begin and they can go to the ‘Great McDonald’s PlayPlace in the sky’.

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        That’s not something Biden would believe in though, the obsession with revelations and interpreting the end of the world bullshit is a protestant thing mostly

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            I know you’re just trying to be funny, but in reality no the Catholic Church does not generally talk about or give a shit about Revelations.

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        Do you really want to drag criticizing belief systems, particularly over the critical importance of a 30km^2 piece of land apparently worth countless lives, into this debacle?

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            It’s forever amusing that anti-theists exaggerate power and influence of religion.

            Israel is a secular country, where the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians is popular for the secular reason that a Jewish democracy requires a Jewish super-majority. This is clear all the way back to the writings of David Ben-Grunion the first prime minister of Israel, who was atheist. (the Jewish homeland imagined by early Zionists like Thomas Herzl also envisioned and multi-cultural secular society).

            Did you know that an early plan for the Jewish homeland was to be located in Kenya? My point being that Israel’s creation had more to do with Europe needing a (distant) place to send Jewish refugees than it did with stories from the Bible.

            I focus on Europe and Israel, because those are the political actors who conceived and colonized a country. The admittedly more religious adversaries of Israel have only reacted to European and Israeli policy, therefore Islam cannot be the “motivating factor”.

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      Ground troops gave already been killed in bases in Iraq and Syria who are getting under more fire because of Israel.

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    Unless Harris signals clearly that she will no longer bankroll Israeli aggression against Palestinians and its regional neighbors, Netanyahu will continue to push the region toward war.

    Harris is not the president, and may not ever be the president, so this will do nothing to stop Netanyahu. And I’m not sure Harris can publicly oppose Biden while working as his VP. I mean, she could, but I don’t know if it’s wise or what the consequences could be.

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      Well she can’t be fired and the campaign finances are officially hers.

      Nothing really biden could do. I suppose he could endorse Trump, technically.

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    I heard Biden wasn’t running anymore.

    Maybe those people claiming Biden had to support israel to get elected can explain why Biden is still Netanyahu’s lap dog.

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    What you really want is for the US to ditch their strategic middle eastern ally.

    Don’t be coy 👉👈

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    As Vice President, she has no real power, and AIPAC is still opposing anyone who says anything against lsrael, so no, now is not the time.

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    The moment of ditching Israel was long in the past, but its never too late.

    Having said that, US doesnt have the spine to take that decision. Not until there is foreign money running the political machinery.

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    Good news flow from Gaza and Iran all the time right now. IDF seems to be killing senior commanders, even top-level ones on a weekly basis.

    Hamas is losing. IDF should not stop now.