• kronisk @lemmy.world
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    Um, no. Problematic use of alcohol, perhaps - “alcoholism” implies addiction, impact on relationships and rest of life etc, which is not implied in the previous comment. A lot of people use a beer or two to deflate after work or stress without it necessarily being a problem. You have to look at the whole picture.

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      Um, yes.

      At least with a pretty high certainty, the “I can do without” is a lie. If you need alcohol that much to “de-stress”, then you are functionally unable to live without alcohol. And that is extremely problematic.

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        Perhaps you should be a bit more cautious about diagnosing people you’ve never met based on very little information. You assume a lot and jump to baseless conclusions.

        If you need alcohol that much to “de-stress”, then you are functionally unable to live without alcohol.

        The original comment describes a situation of constant stress, and alcohol as a shortcut to destress. That person even says that it’s not the alcohol in itself that is desirable. Nowhere does this person talk about excessive consumption.

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          As an alcoholic, I can say with complete certainty. That some one who drinks everyday to “de-stress” IS one or very much is in danger of becoming an alcoholic if it goes on long enough.

          Second, specifically mentioning “it’s not the alcohol” is usually a huge red flag, it means they’re worried they may actually have a problem and are over compensating.

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            As an alcoholic, I can say with complete certainty. That some one who drinks everyday to “de-stress” IS one or very much is in danger of becoming an alcoholic if it goes on long enough. Second, specifically mentioning “it’s not the alcohol” is usually a huge red flag, it means they’re worried they may actually have a problem and are over compensating.

            I get that you are trying to be helpful here and that’s a good thing, but I suspect you try too much to fit what OP is saying into the mould of your own experiences. And again, you assume too much and to boot, you assume that OP is lying, which means suddenly anything could be true or false.

            some one who drinks everyday

            OP does not drink every day.

            Second, specifically mentioning “it’s not the alcohol” is usually a huge red flag, it means they’re worried they may actually have a problem and are over compensating.

            Or it could actually be true. People simply use alcohol in this way because it works. It might end in a destructive pattern of abuse or it might not, but actual alcohol problems come with a lot of other symptoms and patterns, none of which are on display here.

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        Idk, I moved further away from my favourite bar and now I drink maybe twice a month. Used to be my daily routine to go grab a few cold ones after work and chat with whoever else was there.

        Plenty of people do the same. Now if you start doing it at home, alone… Yeah you’ve got a problem.

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          I mean I’m not saying you are or were am alcoholic but you can definitely be an alcoholic who regularly frequents bars

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            Oh definitely. My point was that for some people it’s the environment they chase, whereas for others it’s the substance.