• cogitase@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    crew cab

    Why can’t you make a cheap EV for people who want to be able to throw a couple sheets of plywood in the back? These tiny beds are borderline useless.

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          The other common term is ‘pavement princess’.

          Your 145k luxury heavy duty crewcab truck that spends most of its time sitting on the pavement in your driveway, because gas mileage is terrible, and you’re also terrified of using your truck… as a truck, ie, hauling loads, going a bit offroad or into a construction site… because that could superficially damage your princess.

          There are actually a good number of ‘car guys’ who fucking hate these things, and also even advocate for trains/public transit/bike lanes etc. … because they will actually reduce traffic, which will make driving more enjoyable overall, and also lessen the amount of people on the road who cannot afford to maintain their dangerous shitboxes, that are more likely to be in an accident because of their state of disrepair.

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      The people buying these aren’t really using them as a truck. They use them to go get groceries and pick up a coffee. Idiots.

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        Im uninformed about this. Why cant a truck with a unibody have a bigger bed

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          you put in a bigger bed and customers will try to load it up and bend the unibody frame. you overload your ladder frame pickup and you might damage the bed or the tires but aren’t likely to render the entire vehicle unsafe.

          ladder frame is capable of supporting much more weight than any unibody due to the design that separates load bearing concerns from body concerns.

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          Because a bed made of, and supported by just sheet metal can’t have the same strength as a bed that is supported by essentially 6” steel girders.

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      So like a Chevy bolt or kona ev? Or do you mean specifically honda?

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        Not an SUV or a crossover. I want a compact car like a Civic or a Corolla. Like a VW e-Golf, or the Ford Focus EV, but that’s as affordable as a standard compact car with a good range.

        Hydrogen fuel cells would be a great alternative to electric batteries, and you can refuel in minutes. Or if you’re worried about the hydrogen, how about solid state batteries that allow fast charging to 80% in minutes and are much safer? What’s the hold up? Are they just trying to get rid of their existing battery stock?

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          Who knows. But hydrogen seems like a step back. Faster charge speeds would be nice, but personally, the charge speeds have not negatively impacted me. The ioniq 5 charges plenty fast for my use cases

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              The infrastructure required to support it is vastly more complex & expensive than liquid fuel infrastructure, and it has poor energy density.

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                It’s actually made on site. All you need is water and electricity. There was a pilot program in Québec city for the Toyota Mirai hydrogen fuel cell car and it was generated right on site.

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              For me personally, the idea of needing to go to a station to fill up at a high cost to run an electric motor seems like added complexity when I can just plug in at home and not bother with that, and save a bunch of money for the convenience.

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                And also, we have no efficient way to produce hydrogen…that doesn’t start with hydrocarbons. Storage is also an issue. At that point it isn’t any better than batteries, and allows us to “transition” from fossil fuels with this intermediate step, like with methane.

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        I’m in this boat and got a bolt, though I wish it were lower. And that they kept making it.

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    Fuck that, how about $150k city buses? Or $30k delivery vans? Or $20,000 hatchbacks? Half the pickups on the roads seem to be for feels not work.

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        Man, I hope Slate trucks sell like fucking hotcakes. The lack of creepy spyware makes that the only new vehicle I’m considering.

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        … what? You just said Toyota doesn’t have a proper supply chain or market for parts? You do realize Toyota is literally one of the biggest and most mature car manufacturers and has been for years right?

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        I’ve been looking forward to the Slate truck too, really hoping it’s successful. It would be a perfect upgrade from my 07 Ranger.

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        I’m not normally a truck guy but I really want one of these. I just hope the battery upgrade and individual accessories/customizations don’t bump the cost too high. I love how small the truck is

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    Fuck that, we want good public transport! No oversized cars that are a danger to children and adults alike!

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    If it has a 65"+ bed, I’m gonna feel stupid having a Lightning. But if it’s another crew cab and it has the footprint of a Maverick, it probably won’t.