Tennessee Gov. Bill Lee has approved legislation allowing the death penalty in child rape convictions.
  • Nougat@fedia.io
    48·
    6 months ago

    Execution is not punishment, because the convicted person’s human experience ends.

    Execution is not rehabiliatory, for the same obvious reason.

    Execution is not preventative of the same person reoffending any more than imprisonment is.

    Execution is not preventative of other people committing the same offense, because the act of execution is removed so completely in time and space from the crime and conviction. And it has to be so removed because of how completely wrong the justice system is kind of all the time.

    Execution serves one purpose, and that is vengeance. The State should not be in the business of delivering vengeance to certain people.

    • captainlezbian@lemmy.world
      29·
      6 months ago

      Execution also doesn’t reduce offense rates because the severity of punishment doesn’t factor into decision making above “life ruining if convicted” it’s the certainty of being caught that reduces rates. The uk used to hang pickpockets in the town square and you’d get your pockets picked if you stood there watching.

    • Dkarma@lemmy.world
      4·
      6 months ago

      Execution is to keep the person away from the rest of everyone else permanently. Your straw man reasons are hilarious tho.

      • conditional_soup@lemm.ee
        5·
        6 months ago

        To date, 21 people have been exonerated off death row by DNA evidence. The acceptable number of innocent people executed is 0.

      • Nougat@fedia.io
        4·
        6 months ago

        Execution is not preventative of the same person reoffending any more than imprisonment is.

        You may have missed that part.

      • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
        3·
        6 months ago

        We didn’t execute the prisoners on Guantanamo, supposedly the most dangerous terrorists in the world.

        But we have to execute domestic criminals?

  • henfredemars@infosec.pubEnglish
    42·
    6 months ago

    I wonder if this would actually deter would-be rapists or incentivize them to simply murder the child so they can’t talk. This seems incredibly reckless without data to support killing these criminals actually reduces child rapes.

    Also, I think they might be surprised when these highly conservative legislative bodies execute their hometown pastors instead of drag queens.

    • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
      27·
      6 months ago

      There’s no evidence that capital punishment deters murder, so I’m not sure why it would deter rape.

      I imagine there’s still a fair amount of theft in Saudi Arabia despite their cutting the hands off of thieves.

      Justice systems where punishments can be meted out that are purely punitive are not especially just.

      • d00phy@lemmy.worldEnglish
        11·
        6 months ago

        That assumes the it’s intended to be punishment. I would argue the goal of the laws, stated or not, is vengeance.

        ETA: I’m not disagreeing with your statement. Just offering a modified viewpoint.

  • Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee
    16·
    6 months ago

    I’m against death penalty even for the most heinous crimes for several reasons but the main one being that you’ll never going to get a justice system that’s 100% accurate in their convictions. Jailing an innocent person is already awful enough but just imagine the sense of injustice when sitting on a death row for a crime you didn’t commit. This is an issue especially on cases that provoke strong emotional reactions on people. The default is to believe those accusations and defending yourself just makes one seem more guilty. The mere accusation of rape can already ruin a person’s life let alone when the victim is a child.