• [email protected]@sh.itjust.works
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    One thing that doesn’t make sense, as if there were only one, is how societal collapse will somehow lead to communism. If the US collapses as a state, it would lead to the deaths of hundreds of millions due to spontaneous shifts in politics, supply chains, global economies, defense pacts and industries. The Great Depression would be a hopeful outlook. Rarely do I have the chance to say that I sincerely don’t want to eat people to survive.

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      If the US collapses as a state, it would lead to the deaths of hundreds of millions due to spontaneous shifts in politics, supply chains, global economies, defense pacts and industries.

      I’ve said that to Tankies before and they’ve told me that’s a necessary sacrifice.

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        Yep the correct response to that is always you first comrade. They’re so comfortable with the sacrificing the lives of others. But they would s*** their drawers if that was asked of them.

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        Because they know they’re probably not gonna be the ones starving.

        Crashing through collapse into fascism probably looks like a wonderful idea when you’re sitting pretty outside the blast radius.

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          They come from a very privileged position. I pointed that out to one of them recently and their response was, “is the privilege in the room with you right now?” That takes some heavy cognitive dissonance to claim to be a communist but mock the idea of privilege.

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        This is because they look at very surface level cause and effect often even swapping in correlation for cause and running with it. It was the same way during COVID with “let the old and weak die to make humanity stronger!”… technically true…it is the INSANE NUMBER OF OTHER THINGS that would change causing normal people concern. Between that mindset, belief over facts, and lack of empathy, they can self-dilude into any “alternate truth” they need to not feel the pain of being wrong or changing their ways.

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      It’s a theory of Stalinism from the immediate post war that basically amounted to throwing a fit that the US stabilized half of Europe with the Marshall Plan. So now they think letting capitalist societies collapse somehow magically makes communism happen.