Planting a gun to ensure a conviction? I think the whole “Luigi didn’t do it” conspiracy is silly. Yeah he did it, for sure. And he’s a damn hero for doing it.
I don’t see how the ruling class benefits by throwing the wrong guy in jail and letting the killer go free.
If there was a non Luigi killer he would have claimed responsibility by now.
And yes I’ve seen the photos of his eyebrow in a shitty security cam, hairs reflect light or become invisible depending on the lighting and camera quality. Luigi hasn’t even denied it flat out.
But yes, Luigi did it and praise him for it.
Here’s the thing: they’re saying it’s him, but the evidence is poor and suspicious, and they’ve been making lots of procedural “mistakes” trying to put him away. Like way too many obvious mistakes that you just can’t afford to make in a case like this.
Maybe he did it, maybe he just vaguely looks like a guy in a low-quality photo near the scene of the crime.
I think there are enough issues with the entire process that I wouldn’t assume he’s definitely the guy. But he’s the face that’s been associated with the so called crime, and it gives people something to rally around.
Not chiming in on whether or not he is the guy, but the police making mistakes should be considered standard procedure. They’re only “competent” in movies and TV shows, so we shouldn’t assume they fucking up as evidence for anything besides it being a Monday.
I don’t see how the ruling class benefits by throwing the wrong guy in jail and letting the killer go free.
Because they can’t find the guy that really did it and someone has to burn for this. Executing the wrong man still scares the peasants. Throwing up your hands and saying “we can’t find him, guess he got away 🤷” will cause 18 more copycat killings before your press release is finished. Ergo, find someone and pin it on them, no matter what it takes.
If there was a non Luigi killer he would have claimed responsibility by now.
Why would anyone possibly do this when they just successfully got away with their major crime. That’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. The real killer is laying extremely low until their crime is no longer daily national news. Especially because the guy getting pinned for it is being threatened with major terroristic charges and execution, no one is going to pipe up and say “no actually I did it, defame and murder me instead please”.
Doubly so when it’s becoming increasingly evident that the police are running a clown show that doesn’t have a chance in hell of actually convicting. If I didn’t know better I’d think they wanted to let Luigi walk. So the real killer is safe and secure in the knowledge that nobody is looking for him anymore and the guy they did catch has an extremely slim chance of facing real consequences.
Why would the real killer have claimed responsibility? That’s assuming the vigilante is serial killer adjacent and was aiming for notoriety thwarting police by killing CEOs instead of normal people.
And why are you assuming that the cabal of rich dickheads could have apprehended the real killer but chose Luigi regardless? Instead of having no reliable suspect and being given a effigy to burn publicly because of a call-in and an over-eager (and corrupt), local police force?
Conspiracies make people feel smart and special, like they know THE TRUTH about something that everyone else isn’t aware of. The real world is more straight forward and not a spy thriller. He did it, and he’s a damn saints for doing it
Then why hasnt he said they got the wrong guy? Hes playing the legal game now, has nothing to do with guilt or innocence. It also doesnt matter if the cops planted the gun, they mishandled the bag and recorded too much of what happened.
I haven’t heard much out of Luigi at all (although I admit, I’m not paying that much attention). Sounds to me like he’s just keeping his mouth shut in general and letting his lawyer do the talking. Which is just solid advice for the US legal system.
He’s mostly been busy shutting the fuck up, like you’re supposed to do when you’re on trial, but I think this counts:
“It’s completely out of touch and an insult to the intelligence of the American people and their lived experience!” - 10 December 2024. This statement was explained by Mangione’s lawyer as the result of him being “agitated about what’s happening to him and what he’s being accused of.”
Which it is, in fact, an insult to the American people to expect us to believe he’s guilty. If I had a nickel for every massively publicized national trial involving rampant police corruption and planting of evidence, I’d have two nickels, one from OJ Simpson and one from Luigi. If I had a nickel for every time it actually happened without being broadcast to the nation I’d be able to buy Twitter with them.
Well, OJ killed his wife and her lover, and Luigi killed that CEO. I will say that he has a fantastic lawyer but hes lucky he didnt say anything more specific than that.
They’re not letting him near the press. The one thing we’ve heard from him as they shoved him against a wall in front of cameras was that they planted stuff on him.
I’m not saying he’s definitely innocent. I’m saying I’m unconvinced by the evidence presented pre trial. In fact that’s what I’m supposed to think as an American. I think I’m going to try to foster thst thought process further in the future even with those accused of other crimes. Our culture has gotten too comfortable taking cops at their words despite knowing they lie
Oh look, a nonAmerican who seems to be unfamiliar with how corrupt American police are, and for some reason seems to think that they know enough to tell everyone to trust the narrative that the police are pushing, despite the blatant holes in their story.
Because one killer is meaningless, but a culture of rebellion is dangerous. They do not care if Luigi is the right man at all, the only point of any of this is saying “this is not acceptable and we will stomp out dissent.”
That’s all this is about. Frankly they don’t care if the real killer goes free because they aren’t worried about the person, they’re worried about the message.
Wow, imagine being the cop that fucked this up this hard.
I don’t think they could avoid fucking it up. Planting a fucking gun isn’t that easy :D
I mean, I guess it depends on how late in the season you plant it and how many gun seeds you have.
Well, let’s check in that Brian guy, he had a few gun seeds planted pretty successfully a while back.
Most people forget to stratify their gun plants and end up with stunted growth and just end up with snub noses
oh i thought the snub nose was from selective breeding, like the short-barreled rifle.
Not to be confused with a sawn off shotgun, which has had its growth intentionally stunted through systematic trimming.
You have to germinate them in a forge at 1200 degrees for about a week.
It’s all about getting the right balance of water and PH in the soil. I’ve had many guns wither just after sprouting.
Planting a gun to ensure a conviction? I think the whole “Luigi didn’t do it” conspiracy is silly. Yeah he did it, for sure. And he’s a damn hero for doing it. I don’t see how the ruling class benefits by throwing the wrong guy in jail and letting the killer go free. If there was a non Luigi killer he would have claimed responsibility by now.
And yes I’ve seen the photos of his eyebrow in a shitty security cam, hairs reflect light or become invisible depending on the lighting and camera quality. Luigi hasn’t even denied it flat out. But yes, Luigi did it and praise him for it.
Here’s the thing: they’re saying it’s him, but the evidence is poor and suspicious, and they’ve been making lots of procedural “mistakes” trying to put him away. Like way too many obvious mistakes that you just can’t afford to make in a case like this.
Maybe he did it, maybe he just vaguely looks like a guy in a low-quality photo near the scene of the crime.
I think there are enough issues with the entire process that I wouldn’t assume he’s definitely the guy. But he’s the face that’s been associated with the so called crime, and it gives people something to rally around.
Not chiming in on whether or not he is the guy, but the police making mistakes should be considered standard procedure. They’re only “competent” in movies and TV shows, so we shouldn’t assume they fucking up as evidence for anything besides it being a Monday.
No he’s definitely the guy. I can see them breaking rules and jumping hoops to try and throw him hard under that bus, but it’s most certainly him
How would you know? Were you there planting gun and manifesto in his bag or something
Sounds like somebody is gonna get summoned for jury duty.
The police worked very hard to make you think it was him. Like planting all this"damning evidence" on him for his… trip to McDonald’s a week later.
Username checks out.
How is “Luigi didn’t do it” a silly conspiracy but saying “Yeah he did it, for sure.” not?
Because they can’t find the guy that really did it and someone has to burn for this. Executing the wrong man still scares the peasants. Throwing up your hands and saying “we can’t find him, guess he got away 🤷” will cause 18 more copycat killings before your press release is finished. Ergo, find someone and pin it on them, no matter what it takes.
Why would anyone possibly do this when they just successfully got away with their major crime. That’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. The real killer is laying extremely low until their crime is no longer daily national news. Especially because the guy getting pinned for it is being threatened with major terroristic charges and execution, no one is going to pipe up and say “no actually I did it, defame and murder me instead please”.
Doubly so when it’s becoming increasingly evident that the police are running a clown show that doesn’t have a chance in hell of actually convicting. If I didn’t know better I’d think they wanted to let Luigi walk. So the real killer is safe and secure in the knowledge that nobody is looking for him anymore and the guy they did catch has an extremely slim chance of facing real consequences.
You are the type of person who thinks people are guilty because the police arrested them.
The police claim that footage is of the killer and you just believe it because authorities said so.
The police claim they found the manifesto on him and you just believe it because authorities said so.
The police claim they found a weapon on him and you just believe it because authorities said so.
The police claim the weapon was a march and you just believe it because authorities said so.
No one else has stepped up to claim the crime, which would get them death penalty so clearly it must be this guy.
He hasn’t outright denied it – apparently pleading not guilty isn’t that so clearly he did it because he’s not denying it hard enough for you.
Prosecutors love fools like you because it leads to easy convictions.
Why would the real killer have claimed responsibility? That’s assuming the vigilante is serial killer adjacent and was aiming for notoriety thwarting police by killing CEOs instead of normal people.
And why are you assuming that the cabal of rich dickheads could have apprehended the real killer but chose Luigi regardless? Instead of having no reliable suspect and being given a effigy to burn publicly because of a call-in and an over-eager (and corrupt), local police force?
Conspiracies make people feel smart and special, like they know THE TRUTH about something that everyone else isn’t aware of. The real world is more straight forward and not a spy thriller. He did it, and he’s a damn saints for doing it
Okay, nice move: in one play, an oblique dig at my intelligence and dismissing valid questions out of hand without addressing anything.
It isn’t a spy thriller for cops to grab the wrong guy to quickly close a case. It happens to black people all the time.
Then why hasnt he said they got the wrong guy? Hes playing the legal game now, has nothing to do with guilt or innocence. It also doesnt matter if the cops planted the gun, they mishandled the bag and recorded too much of what happened.
I haven’t heard much out of Luigi at all (although I admit, I’m not paying that much attention). Sounds to me like he’s just keeping his mouth shut in general and letting his lawyer do the talking. Which is just solid advice for the US legal system.
He shouted at reporters that this was an insult to intelligence of the american people. Not very conclusive either way, but since you hadn’t heard.
He’s mostly been busy shutting the fuck up, like you’re supposed to do when you’re on trial, but I think this counts:
“It’s completely out of touch and an insult to the intelligence of the American people and their lived experience!” - 10 December 2024. This statement was explained by Mangione’s lawyer as the result of him being “agitated about what’s happening to him and what he’s being accused of.”
Which it is, in fact, an insult to the American people to expect us to believe he’s guilty. If I had a nickel for every massively publicized national trial involving rampant police corruption and planting of evidence, I’d have two nickels, one from OJ Simpson and one from Luigi. If I had a nickel for every time it actually happened without being broadcast to the nation I’d be able to buy Twitter with them.
Well, OJ killed his wife and her lover, and Luigi killed that CEO. I will say that he has a fantastic lawyer but hes lucky he didnt say anything more specific than that.
They’re not letting him near the press. The one thing we’ve heard from him as they shoved him against a wall in front of cameras was that they planted stuff on him.
That’s his lawyer’s job. That’s what they’re doing right fucking now.
I’m not saying he’s definitely innocent. I’m saying I’m unconvinced by the evidence presented pre trial. In fact that’s what I’m supposed to think as an American. I think I’m going to try to foster thst thought process further in the future even with those accused of other crimes. Our culture has gotten too comfortable taking cops at their words despite knowing they lie
So exactly what you’re doing being contrarian in this thread…
Y’all are nuts. Then again im arguing with a bunch of Americans who think they got it all figured out
Oh look, a nonAmerican who seems to be unfamiliar with how corrupt American police are, and for some reason seems to think that they know enough to tell everyone to trust the narrative that the police are pushing, despite the blatant holes in their story.
Because one killer is meaningless, but a culture of rebellion is dangerous. They do not care if Luigi is the right man at all, the only point of any of this is saying “this is not acceptable and we will stomp out dissent.”
That’s all this is about. Frankly they don’t care if the real killer goes free because they aren’t worried about the person, they’re worried about the message.
Don’t worry, they are already on paid disciplinary leave until this is all over.
Hero Cop Saves Innocent Man’s Life
First and last time this phrase has ever been said about a US cop