Beach properties assets are all gone and my city is screwed. Thanks a lot.
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Since the removal of the DLC, and the fact it's not already in the base game, all assets related to it now appear as grey boxes. Thanks again for that, as it was doubtlessly absolutely necessary to remove the DLC now and not when it's integrated...

It doesn’t stop. It just never stops.

  • BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    2 months ago

    I loved Cities 1, I was massively looking forward to 2 but it’s been nothing but a shitshow.

    I’ve also had a enough of the gaslighting around this game that somehow it’s the angry customers that are the problem.

    • loobkoob@kbin.social
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      2 months ago

      The angry customers and the state of the game are problems.

      • it’s hard to feel sorry for people who pre-ordered because they got exactly what they paid for - a game of unknown quality and quantity of content
      • it’s hard to feel sorry for people who bought post-release because they also got exactly what they paid for - a game where reviews detailed poor quality and quantity of content
      • customers being disappointed and/or wanting a refund is perfectly reasonable
      • people wanting the game to be better is also reasonable
      • people abusing the devs is not reasonable

      I’m not going to defend the poor quality of the game because it’s obviously bad (from what I gather, anyway - I’ve not played it myself) and should be improved. But I do think gamers could learn to be a little more responsible with their purchases and inform themselves before buying a game.

      I’m pretty over the whole cycle of games coming out and not meeting expectations, people buying them anyway (through pre-orders or day-one purchases), people being unnecessarily rude/hostile/sending death threats to developers as if they were forced to buy the game as gunpoint. Yes, developers should try to do better, yes publishers should often give developers more time to polish up games rather than announcing the release date two years in advance and refusing to delay, but also consumers could really take some responsibility for what they decide to give money to.

      • systemglitch@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        2 months ago

        Your opinion is stupid, because these people SHOULD be putting this negative pressure on them. It’s deserved and the louder they are the better.

        • loobkoob@kbin.social
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          2 months ago

          these people SHOULD be putting this negative pressure on them. It’s deserved

          Was it not implied I agree with that when I said:

          The angry customers and the state of the game are problems.

          and;

          • customers being disappointed and/or wanting a refund is perfectly reasonable
          • people wanting the game to be better is also reasonable

          I’m not going to defend the poor quality of the game because it’s obviously bad (from what I gather, anyway - I’ve not played it myself) and should be improved.

          ?

          I don’t see why that would make my opinion stupid. Yes, the studio/publisher should be held to account for the crappy release. But a big part of holding them to account should be not giving them money for it in the first place; not just handing over money and then complaining afterwards. Complaining afterwards is reasonable for the people who did hand over money, but they should also hold themselves accountable for financially rewarding a company that puts out a crappy product - they’re part of the problem.

            • loobkoob@kbin.social
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              2 months ago

              It’s okay; I appreciate the apology! :)

              I think it’s important to look for the nuance in situations and not treat everything as zero-sum. Both sides can have good points and be open to criticism at the same time (this isn’t an “enlightened centrist” take, I promise!). I think a lot of discussion online does tend to strip away nuance and take the position that if you show any empathy with one side then it means you must hate the other - I do my best to avoid that!

  • 4am@lemm.eeEnglish
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    2 months ago

    CSII has been a shitshow, and the devs rightfully should be ashamed, but honestly reading the comments on that forum makes me really not feel bad for a lot of those people doing the complaining.

    Like yeah the game is broken, you got an incomplete product, and it’s ok to be upset. They didn’t fucking kill your dog, there’s no need to fucking dig into them quite so hard, dude. Stop acting like your abusive parents did to you.

      • GBU_28@lemm.eeEnglish
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        2 months ago

        You’re saying if someone sells you a shitty blender or toaster that’s the same as they killed your dog?

          • GBU_28@lemm.eeEnglish
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            2 months ago

            If you literally said it is have quoted it. I’m making a hypothetical equivalency to prove a point.

            They sold a product. It sucks. Have they really violated you beyond that transaction?