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As a foreigner I think all American presidents on my lifetime have been pieces of shit and America is a hopeless hell hole. Fucking 10 corporations in a trench coat pretending to be a government.
This is the sanest comment.
Biden’s economy was shit too, which is what made it possible for Trump to broaden his coalition so significantly.
It wasn’t though. Fucking people just swallowed the trump/Republican/MS bullshit. Profits were up, unemployment was down, violent crime was down, etc. I’m not saying Biden didn’t do a lot of shit stuff or that I wasn’t in direct opposition to several of his positions.
I’m sure it was great for the owning class (profits up, unemployment down). But the metrics that matter (number of people able to afford housing, homelessness, access to healthcare, education, general purchasing power) all moved in the wrong direction.
To illustrate why unemployment is a bad metric, consider the notion of having to work multiple jobs to make ends meet. Consider homeless bus drivers in San Francisco. High unemployment (good economy for the owning class) does not imply higher living standards (good economy for the rest of us), especially when paired with higher profits.
It is exactly this denial of problems of everyday working americans that lost the Dems the election. Trump won because he acknowledged there’s a big problem. Sure, if you think about it, his solutions will make things worse, but at least he’ll do something.
Ok so this right here is emblematic of how far Biden had his head up his ass.
He and the DNC were so fucking focused on the stats and numbers that they simply refused to believe that people were actually still struggling. They ignored real, lived experiences of tens of millions of citizens who were saying “shit sucks and I’m barely making rent”. They ignored the hollowing out of the middle class over the last couple decades, and the slow, crushing death that the lower class has been increasingly subjected to. Jack yourselves off as much as you want about profit and unemployment numbers (which is measured in a way that makes it loosely affiliated with reality, at best) and GDP and nasdaq numbers; the fact remains that, on the ground, life still sucked for a LOT of people. And they basically got at best ignored, and at worst lectured by uninspiring politicky grandpa before being told “that’s not real, shut the fuck up”. It’s not that shocking that a ton of people stayed home, when one considers the full context like that. I voted for Harris, but I was deeply dismayed at how little she seemed to want to differentiate herself from Biden. I think that is one of the primary things that sunk her.
Serious question,
are you too young to remember Obama or was he considered bad too?
I am not going to spend the next three hours explaining how Obama and that goat fucking weasel Joe Biden as his vice president made some shady deals with the party in power of my country to start a very devious and corrupt drug war. And I am not going to tell you that I was working as a field teacher at the time of that drug war, That shit got so dangerous I had to quit my job. That said drug war fixed nothing, it only kicked the hornets nest , killed a lot of people, it painted the streets red. It moved money towards a new breed of more violent drug traffickers and blocked legislations that would make drug regulation possible. and that it wasn’t just in my country; Obama was a useless hypocrite neoliberal puppet, pure scum. He had the power to make a lot of positive changes and just followed the lead of the people that were really in power in America: The corporations. I am not even very versed in American policy. I’m sure There are American people out there that paid attention at the time might have an idea of how The Obama years paved the way for the trump Era.
Americans live their lives ruled by people who would rather put their balls in a vice and set that vice on fire than to pass regulations on Corporations. Meanwhile those corporations concentrate more international power and either impose or export their corruption to the rest of the world. Your politicians are bought and paid by these conglomerates, they are your government. Your democracy is a farce, your politicians spent decades dictating to the rest of the world what civility, democracy and free market should be. And the moment those concepts are an obstacle to the concentration of power of American corporations all those wishy washy ideals go out the window. America imposed neoliberalism in Latin America. killed thousands in Chile, in El Salvador, in Brazil for their little project and now they have to gall to say the rest of the world owes them everything. What a joke all this is.
I’m sick of it. I’m sick of having dumbass American politics exported to my country. I’m sick of American culture, I’m sick of being worried of who is going to be the new dumbass on power there and who is going to be demonized by their foreign policy. I’m sick that it’s a black hole that wants to privatize everything. I’m sick of Sam Altman , Elon musk, Jeff Bezos and Hillary Clinton. I’m sick of the money that flows to the media on other countries outside of America to Manufacture consent and i am sick that you can’t even say “FUCK AMERICA” in social media, because you fuckers are so thin skinned you can point guns to the rest of the world and can’t even take an insult!
There was a joke under Obama
What’s the difference between a terrorist bunker and a children’s hospital? IDK I just fly the drone
Being better than Republicans is hardly an accomplishment but I will say that he was better, I could even say he was good for an American but that shouldn’t be confused with good
I mean considering the amount of people deported under his terms in office and the normalization of drone strikes he created I would say yeah, he was a bad president, not anywhere near as bad as Trump but still pretty bad. And that’s before you get into him capitulating to the establishment of the Democratic party on things like Obama care getting heavily watered down and just in general losing his progressive edge as soon as he took office.
I remember him recieving the Nobel Peace Prize, then escalating things, lol.
I don’t know if I would classify him as a POS, but I guess the bar is pretty low here. Also dunno if he was much worse than the other post-colonial leaders of the same period.
I mean yeah if you’re grading on a curve he might be more up there but if you’re looking at it objectively as whether he did good or bad things I think he definitely did a lot of bad things, just like almost every president, which was the main point the comment above was making. I think we deserve better but it’s gonna take a lot of fighting against corporate interests to really get there.
I don’t know if I would classify him as a POS
What does it take for you to classify a war criminal as a POS?
Obama is a neoliberal corporatist
Exactly this. The problems with America predate Trump and his administration. The difference is that Trump and Co. are what used to be satirical caricatures of the idea of American exceptionalism, as if taking Team America The World Police seriously.
Yeah I really wish there was some kind of patent reform so a company can only hold a patent long enough for the work to create the innovation to be worth the pursuit of it.
Instead they will use patents to stifle innovation and stop people from being able to compete with new ideas based on an original innovation. The patent system was supposed to foster innovation, not stifle it.
Ive never seen any politician on any side do anything about the aggressive use of patents. Companies will buy out companies just for the patents. Its obviously a big issue that reworked would make it harder for a corporation to thrive without continuing to innovate and provide what the people really want or need.
Yeah it was decided initially so that the creator could still benefit from it and recoup r&d costs before a third party could copy their design without the r&d and be able to sell the product cheaper.
But now companies just patent any idea without using them just so other companies can’t.
If a company doesn’t use their patent within a certain time frame it should be completely revoked.
Trump making the capitalist hellhole worse, does not make the capitalist hellhole acceptable. No matter if the presidents name was Trump, Biden, Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush or Reagan.
An economy that cannot provide access to basic healthcare and education for its citzens is a failed economy, no matter how high the price tags of stocks traded by coked up psychopaths are.
It’s still Bidens economy for the next four years unless it’s doing good then it becomes Trump’s
Yeah, and it was Trump’s economy for the past four years because everyone knew he was going to win and everyone would be constantly winning too. Now it’s Biden’s economy, but wait until Trump’s economy kicks into gear. You’ll get so many jobs you won’t know what to do with them. Unless the economy crashes again after that, then it’s Biden’s economy again until it recovers then it’s Trump’s. What’s so hard to understand?
Oceania was at war with Eurasia; therefore Oceania had always been at war with Eurasia. -Orwell, 1984
I think it’s a fucking asshole for not throwing citizen Trump in a deep dark prison cell the second he stepped out of the White House.
If Biden had any balls At.All. Trump would have been in prison Jan 7th
How was Biden to do that when he wasn’t president until the 20th.
If Biden had balls he’d have drone striked Trump and his Supreme Court appointments the day after the court gave the president immunity for executive actions.
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Right? It’s all Biden’s fault! (Jk)
He’s certainly not fucking innocent
I kept telling people, Biden is OK, he seems to be getting stuff done…BUT he’s not doing anything about the trump/insurrection/undermining-the-fundamentals-of-this-country. I got tsked, poo-pooed, and was called way too radical many times for three years. I would rather have been wrong.
One could argue no us president is innocent, no?
I don’t really know. I’m not American. I just find the scapegoating funny. And dumb af. Equal parts of both, really.
Yes. Actually go further, anyone who doesn’t argue there is no innocent US president is disingenuous or a total idiot.
Abraham Lincoln’s long term solution to race relations was genocide by relocation. He wanted another trail of tears to whiten the US, there was just a pesky war in the way. Freeing the slaves was a punishment for white people, not a benefit for black people. There is no “good” US president
That seems like a really dangerous precedent to set.
Anyone who bothers paying attention knew Republicans were going to fuck our economy up. They always do. But even I am shocked at how fast it’s happening.
Doesn’t matter. This country is too stupid to learn from mistakes. And down the ship goes.
Less shitty != not shitty
I think he should be in the Hague, personally.
I know what you mean, but while he’s here, we could use someone like Biden to run our country. The Schoof coalition is a shit show, not really due to Schoof personally though.
Bad still bad. Ignoring real poverty, homelessness and struggle because “line go up” was not good. No reason to rehabilitate an imperialist billionaire loving war criminal because his successor is arguably worse in many ways.
I’ll let him know once my college loans are forgiven, the genocide stops in Palestine, and he sends us all the rest of the relief checks he promised if he got the two senate seats in Georgia he needed. Then he said, “no I meant $2000 total minus the $1400 you already got while Trump was in office.” Dude is a turd and a weak turd at that. He deported more people than Trump. Trump just brags more.
Then he said, “no I meant $2000 total minus the $1400
That really pissed me off too, how they changed the messaging abruptly after the election and just pretended they’d never said it. Bastards.
Gaslighting the public, the politician way.
Yeah the only difference is Trump loudly declares the bad things. I wish Biden followed on his good promises.
Sorry you got downvoted for remembering all the failures and things people try to gaslight us about.
Continued the tradition of hollowing out the middle class for wealthy donors like any other politician. The man represented Delaware for God’s sake. Economy got “better” while people continued to get gradually poorer, materially.
I guess that’s better than having every index in the world crater because chatgpt said tariffs on everyone though, so.
Greatest president during Joe’s presidency. We’ll sorely miss anyone who is not Trump.
The best part about Biden’s presidency was not having to read the news because the president was gonna make a huge mess the next day.
Don’t gaslight me with some fake history.
I think genocide joe’s “economy” is a huge part of why we have trump.
Your average Republican still.blames him. That’s he playbook get your people to blame the left no matter what!
Ask someone to repeat the talking point of the Republicans and then ask them about the Democrats. I bet everyone knows about woke, crime immigration and so on. The Republicans run on culture wars and anger to get more interaction like social media.
My family has been paycheck to paycheck since about 2012, nothing has changed for that. I don’t care about the stock market, I care about an income for the low income people like me. No president in my life time has done that.
Trump never will, Biden could have put pressure on congress and chose not to.
I still hate it. Sure, the economy under Trump is worse, but that doesn’t mean the economy under Biden wasn’t also terrible.
