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    2 months ago

    The Democratic Party is the exact kind of stupid to have it ruled that a President can assassinate political rivals, refuse to use the power, lose the election, and then act surprised when they all get executed.

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    Does Trump realize that if he “wins” that particular argument, that would empower Biden to have Trump killed without consequence? Or the supreme court justices he rammed into the court? Or his voters?

    Oh wait… republicans are utterly incapable of forseeing potential consequences of what they want nm.

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      Does Trump realize that if he “wins” that particular argument, that would empower Biden to have Trump killed without consequence?

      As of today, Trump has been held in contempt of court 10 times, with the judge explicitly stating “The last thing I want to do is put you in jail”.

      This is a guy who has been so utterly swaddled from consequences that I genuinely do not believe he feels threatened by the prospect of extra-judicial assassination by a political rival. Liberals are Woke and Soy. They don’t have the cajones to pull the trigger. And I’ve seen little to suggest he’s wrong in this belief. The police are far more willing to crack the heads of Columbia liberal arts students than MAGA Chuds. And the courts have been incredibly lenient towards J6ers, particularly those with the money and influence to plead favorable terms in court.

      Meanwhile, Epic MAGA Dudes run rampant through JSOC, the FBI, and the Secret Service. If anything, this is a threat against Biden. Combined with the claim that he’s the legitimate president and was robbed of his second term, this line of reasoning is intended to carve a legal path for a coup from friends in the military and police.

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        Part of the reason that courts are so lenient with him is to avoid that, once he is judged, that there is any space for anyone to claim a mistrial or that he was mis treated. It’s unfortunate z but that’s the way the justice system works, and trump abuses that to the max.

        That is why the judge explicitly says “I don’t want to jail you” just so that it’s said that he can, but won’t. Yet. Now that trump has been ordered to pay, it’s only a few thousand dollars, but again, that’s the law. Judges can’t just change that on their own whims.

        So next up, if Trump blabs again, which he will, he will go to jail. I read something about the secret service already trying to figure out how to protect trump in jail, because that’s their responsibility, wherever the idiot is, so let’s just say that the next step may blvery we’ll be quite funny.

        Having said that: I am happy they are taking their time and are being very careful, last thing you want is an exonorated trump because of some procedural error or because trump indeed was not tried fairly.

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          Part of the reason that courts are so lenient with him is to avoid that, once he is judged, that there is any space for anyone to claim a mistrial or that he was mis treated.

          And why are these bureaucrats obsessed with a perception of fairness for Donald Trump when they were so cavalier with the treatment of a guy like Steven Donziger or Aaron Swartz or Brandon Mayfield or Leonard Peltier?

          The argument advanced by liberals is that Donald Trump presents an extraordinary threat to democracy and civil liberties in the US if elected. So… surely he’s got himself booked on a one-way trip to Guantanamo Bay, right? Or, at the very least, he’ll be receiving the same treatment as Chelsea Manning or Reality Winner, right?

          So next up, if Trump blabs again, which he will, he will go to jail.

          I will put up $1000 to your $100 that Trump will not spend a single full day in jail if he is once again dinged for being in contempt of court.

          Having said that: I am happy they are taking their time and are being very careful

          They’re running out the clock until election day, so they can throw out the case.

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        No but it does force republicans to contort themselves into a pretzel to defend that decision given their rhetoric about democrats.

        More likely theyll just point to it as a reason to never cede power because they’re unrepentant ghouls.

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          I don’t know why you are characterizing this as a republican blunder. It makes perfect sense.

          The Republicans know the Democrats’ obsession with civility means a dem would never invoke this prospective right to assassinate a political rival.

          “But the Republicans are being illogical! This is a double standard! There is no intellectual honesty in such an argument!”

          Stop trying to appeal to logic and honesty when it comes to Republicans. This liberal thinking is what got Trump elected the first time.

          Accept that morals, ethics, and logic mean nothing to fascists before it is too late.

          I swear, the patriot front could be doing door-to-door curb stomps once trump gets elected, and liberals would still be smugly pointing out that “violence is no way to solve political issues, chud. Check and mate ;)”, right before they get curb stomped.

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    So… SCOTUS decides in Trump’s favor, Biden has him assassinated, Biden wins election.

    Trump is arguing that this will be OK, right? Right?

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      I wish someone would confront Trump about that during an interview. “So, do you have an armed guard, because you’re saying Biden can legally kill you?”

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        And then far right media would parrot for weeks that Biden actually wants to kill Trump. If they did what they did for a “stolen election” imagine what they would do if they had “reason” to suspect that Trump could be assassinated at Bidens wish

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        I’d be pretty surprised if there were a private security option capable of holding off the military, if the president really wanted someone dead and had the legal go-ahead.

        I’d be really surprised if Trump could afford them.

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    Man at did point we really are gonna find out some art teacher shamed Trump’s interest in painting.

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      Its not an art teacher, it’s his dad who hated him and loved Fred until Fred fucked up in business (being compassionate) at which point his dad basically disowned his brother and took Donald as his heir. His brother later drank himself to death because of the way his dad treated him and is the reason Donald doesn’t drink.

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        This is real, we’re dealing with a wannabe dictator with daddy issues and he has millions of followers.

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    Obama and Trump literally ordered hits on (foreign) political rivals so I don’t get the pearl.clutching at a lawyer answering like a lawyer on the topic