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Oh fuck off.
Does it feel dirty as fuck? Of course it does, but if you genuinely think there is no difference at all in climate outlook between the two then I have a billion oil jacks to sell you.
It might be the lesser of two evils, but every tonne less we emit is one less we need to remove.
People who claim both parties are the shame are just showing their privilege.
It’s the same in the UK, do Labour come anywhere close to having the policies I want? No. Are they closer to them than the Tories? Yes.
Vote on one day, organise on the other 1200+ days.
Thank you for the correct link, much appreciated.
Completely agree the 2030 target is electricity, not the entire economy.
For me the key paragraph is in the middle of this section, emphasis mine:
I know some like Extinction Rebellion will lecture me on carbon capture investment. They’ll say it isn’t the right choice.
But it’s working people who come first. Without this tech, heavy industries such as cement, glass-making and chemicals will risk having to down tools.
The Budget in a few weeks’ time will be about fixing the foundations and continuing to show a decisive break from the past
The jobs of brickies, sparkies and engineers — the backbone of Britain — will be risked.
That means fewer new homes, fewer new roads and a slow decline to the dark ages.
These are not impossible industries to decarbonise, but they are very difficult especially with stuff like cement.
Back to your original reply, I don’t think it’s a fair reading of the manifesto to say they promised more than 2030 for electricity and ~2050 for the economy.
Yes I want this to be faster, I’m still pissed off that the £34bn/year for retrofitting, etc, has been watered down multiple times, but - so far - nothing from the manifesto has been scraped.
Come the budget at the end of the month, I may very well be wrong, and very angry.
Edit on budget day: I wasn’t.
I’m sorry, but your additions are simply not a correct summary of the situation.
I live in the UK, and first and foremost, The Sun is an absolute shit rag and should never be considered trustworthy. That also isn’t an opinion piece - check the byline - and Starmer’s quote (in bold) is…
But in a direct rebuke, Sir Keir writes on this page: “I know some like Extinction Rebellion will lecture me on carbon capture . . . they’ll say it isn’t the right choice.”
And warning that industries employing tradesmen including sparkies and brickies would go to the wall without action, he insisted: “It’s working people who come first.”
And that’s it.
Now, this is the relevant press release from the Dept of Energy: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-reignites-industrial-heartlands-10-days-out-from-the-international-investment-summit
And two days before, there was this statement about the approval of 2GW additional solar, and a restatement of the manifesto pledge of clean power (ie electricity) by 2030: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/solar-taskforce-meets-in-drive-for-clean-power
It’s very clear that they are looking in all areas at once, and given the 2030 deadline it’s not accurate to suggest that CCS is a central part of the plan, because it very much isn’t. The plan is 2x solar generation, and 3x wind generation.
Again, I’m not a fan of CCS, but research is a good thing, especially for such a comparatively small price. And we ultimately need to get to carbon negative, and I would expect CCS to be part of that, because scrubbing already released CO2 is going to be a removed of a challenge, but would logically include things like sequestration in nature (trees, soil, sea grasses, etc).
Absolutely agree.
I am no fan of CCS, but the £22bn is across 25 years.
I don’t think that spending less than 1bn a year to research better methods of carbon sequestration is a bad idea, and it definitely won’t meaningfully change the need to drastically reduce the amount of carbon being emitted in every one of those 25 years.
How can I confident in that statement? Because if it would be a meaningful reduction, you’d see a shit load more being spent given just how inexpensive that would be in comparison to the cost of transition and abandoned O&G assets.
Edit: typos
Dammit Chuck.
Tories being obstructionist cunts? Never!
If you get a good one
In a word, yes.
Go to a hardcore show.
Love me some Tim!
Be the change you want to see.
The system is old cos you’ve done nothing but extract money for three decades, you fucking brass necked cunt.
It’s excellent
Lie about having bone spurs.
Romeo and Juliet is a comedy, not a tragedy.
Two teenagers thinking their first crush is worth literally killing themselves in the dumbest scenario imaginable, I mean come on!
Fake London strikes again.
Excellent, so you are in the market for premium oil jacks, where should we start the bidding?