• lurklurk@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    You have a good point that understanding the voter is a good path to figuring out how to fix this in the future.

    We still get to judge them for being awful people, because fooled or not, they effectively are

    Dig deep enough in any awful begaviour and you can find causes and explanations, but that doesn’t make every behaviour ok

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      3 days ago

      And Harris voters behavior is equally awful, they overlooked a genocide to vote for her to “prevent fascism” and “protect democracy” meanwhile the democrat party doesn’t participate in democracy or we would of had a real primary.

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        3 days ago

        The only two possible outcomes were

        • genocide

        • genocide plus fascism and other bad shit

        By voting third party, you supported the latter.

        Sure, killing the two party system is the long term solution, but this particular election was not the time.

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          3 days ago

          By voting third party I SUPPORTED THE THIRD PARTY.

          Fuck outta here with your liberal bullshit. Go be mad at the DNC for royally fucking this up.

          You supported genocide AND anti democratic behavior (refusing a primary and forcing their unpopular unelected candidate down our throats then chastising us for voting wrong) and you have the FUCKING NERVE to pretend you give a flying fuck about fascism or democracy? Go back to fucking brunch lib.

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            You could have voted for your next door neighbor too and told yourself you were voting against genocide, but you’d be wrong then too.

            You didn’t support the third party’s chances of winning because there was no way that was going to ever happen in this election. Elections aren’t about voting for candidates as much as they are voting for outcomes.

            The word liberal is not the insult you think it is.

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              Liberal is definitely an insult. It means having no morals or ethics or inherent beliefs and just voting blue no matter who, no matter who they genocide. It’s pathetic.

              How’s chastising voters for voting wrong working out for you? You ready to lose 2028 too?

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                3 days ago

                If you look at the dictionary definition, it means pretty much exactly the opposite of what you said. Also, the D party is not highly aligned with the definition of liberal, so you’re also wrong about it meaning always voting blue.

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                  2 days ago

                  The democrat party gave up on democracy and traditional liberalism after they lost in a landslide to Reagan.

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                    2 days ago

                    Then why do you claim that liberal means blindly voting D no matter what? Your statements don’t seem consistent.

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          A third outcome would have been to demand the dems not support it by voting uncommitted and talking about it as an issue the voters cared about. Bide/Harris could have changed their mind at any time, and they decided not to. each voter had 1/400 millionth of the choice that Biden Harris had. Dems should blame them for their choices.