Residents are sending a clear message about the violent deportations taking place across the US this midterm cycle
Minnesota voters left “I Voted” stickers on memorial sites for Alex Pretti and Renee Nicole Good, the two US citizens killed by federal immigration officials earlier this year.
Pretti, a 37-year-old intensive care unit nurse at the Veterans Affairs medical center in Minneapolis, Minnesota, and Good, a writer and mother of three, were killed during a large-scale immigration enforcement operation in the Minneapolis region in January.
Donald Trump’s aggressive and violent mass deportation campaign has been a key issue for voters across the country during this midterm cycle, and has played a large part in Minnesota’s election.
How about you leave their graves alone and let them rest instead of turning their memorial sites into a virtue signal about voting? Please don’t let any anyone like this near my grave if I die.
I don’t want you to be elected specifically , Klobuchar, I want justice, and people told me a liberal governor would be “better” and “more palatable to those interests”. So you better represent me and not Israel. You better represent George Floyd, Alex, Renee, as well as my neighbors and I. Not Ukraine. Not healthcare companies. Not oil companies. Not housing companies buying homes to make them too expensive to afford. Get to work.
Nice Russian plant with the “Not Ukraine” in there. Interesting that you mention Israel (the aggressor in that conflict) and Ukraine (the victim of Russia) and try to equate the two somehow.
I shouldn’t have to preface this by saying I don’t support Putin. Russia would have been way better off as USSR without capitalist reforms that led to Putin being in power. The Ukrainian government let fascist militias into thier actual military. There are pictures of Zelensky posing proudly with Swastika flags. I’m sorry but I do not support that and I never ever will, no matter how many times you tell me to “shut the fuck up” I’m not supporting your Neo-Nazi armies with my money.
I forgot Lemmy gets real pissed when you mention not supporting Nazis…
The fact you actually believe those images are authentic says everything about your sources and your politics.
Here is one he posted himself, in the video at 25 seconds in. That symbol is called a Wolfsangel, it is used in this context as a white supremacist nationalist symbol akin to the Swastika.
https://x.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/1985695849993650627
I know there are fake ones, but there isn’t anything to be proud of open fascist imagery and Ukraine is letting them take over the military
Hey wait a second. Why are you posting a video with a blurry Wolfsangel patch on some random background soldier’s uniform? You literally said there are photos of Zelensky proudly posing with swastika flags. Those are the images you should be posting.
But okay. Wolfsangel. First, having that symbol in the background of a video and saying that makes the Ukrainian military white supremacist, well, that’s a tenuous argument. According to them the Wolfsangel symbol is being used in its original historical context, ie, to symbolize rebellion and freedom from tyranny. The situation they’re in certainly bears out that notion. I mean, what would be the point of promoting white supremacy in a war where virtually all the soldiers involved are white?
I’m sure you’re aware most Nazi symbols were appropriated from elsewhere and turned into hateful imagery by association and a corrupting ideology. I agree with you that in a modern context it’s problematic, but I stop short of calling their explanation outright bullshit. For you to unequivocally accuse them of Nazism, which echoes Russian propaganda, is suspect in itself.
Separately, if white supremacy in the armed forces genuinely bothers you, I have some truly distressing news about many service members in your own military. I hope you’re as vocal (or more, even!) with your opposition to their service as you are to that of the Ukrainians. But somehow I doubt it.
God you guys are so stupid it’s unbearable. Sure buddy. and the 1488 tattoo on my neighbor is just a number. I know what these symbols mean
Oh trust me I am. The US army is literally the biggest white supremacist army ever created. Trust me you don’t probably want to know what I think should happen to American military forces. I don’t think any of them deserve to come home. They made a choice to serve white supremacy.
Same goes to Ukraine. Reject your Soviet history, whatever, but have Hitler tattoos in your ranks, starts to smell like Nazi apologia, possibly even utilizing and funding Neo Nazis. Same as Americans.
Well, since we’re all in complete agreement that white supremacy sucks, even if our sources differ, I’ll take that as a compliment and consider myself in good company. Peace, bruv. ✌️
I actually posted the wrong link. I have fixed it, here you go: https://x.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/1985695849993650627
video @25 seconds
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i’m no vexillology expert but that doesn’t resemble any Nazi flag i’m familiar with. it’s not a swatztika afaict.
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You think the Azov battalion being open Neo-Nazi is just fake pictures?
No, I think it’s outdated info. They definitely started out that way when they were an independent militia pre-2014, no argument here, but modern researchers and historians say that’s no longer the case. The Kremlin disagrees, of course. I have no doubt there are still Neo-Nazis in there, but to say that makes it an openly Neo-Nazi battalion… there are Jews and Muslims fighting in that brigade too, if that means anything to you. I guess you’ll just have to decide for yourself who’s more credible, the defenders or the invaders.
That means nothing to me, why would they be okay with swastika flags and Hitler tattoos?
That’s not how it works, first off I don’t want my tax dollars going to Nazis. Second it should be investigated before any NATO support and so on
Shut the fuck up, Yuri.
Ah yes, you don’t have a response so you’re just gonna be racist against russians even tho I’m a white American. Is me being not white scarier to you?
Russians are white too, you know.
Do Russians being white make you feel better about perpetuating xenophobic stereotypes?
You can virtue signal all you want, but nobody believes you, Yuri.
Alright keep on turning your brain off, Dave. Turns out I am Russian after all, your worst nightmare. You’re a Nazi apologist.
There it is. Thanks for outing yourself, Yuri.
Way to show you actually care about people, innocent people are being snatched on in the streets by Neo Nazis and you’re jerking off laughing at me, a random white guy, and running defense for Nazis who kidnap children for your meat grinder. I bet you love it and you want it to continue because again, you are less afraid of literal Swastika flying Nazis.
Keep calling me a foreign name because you hate foreign people, I get it Dave. celebrate your elected officials being pro war, Dave. When you believed Nazi army loses and zelensky is hung with Putin I’ll be the one laughing while we forcible remove all your Nazi tattoos, Dave.
Shut the fuck up.
No. How about you respect the dead instead of using them as props for your party. Liberals really are sick sometimes.
Respecting the dead is taking action to honour them, all the shit you’re yapping about is downstream from the act of voting whether your idealism likes it or not, this is the system we have. Your self-rightious bloviating in the name of the dead is vanity plain and simple, so shut the fuck up and stop grandstanding to people who are doing their best.
People like you, voting blue no matter who and then bragging that it has fixed everything are the reason democrats and republicans can continue to win on genocide platforms
Minnesota has been a blue state forever and Alex and Renee got shot under Dem leadership, something you’d know if you lived here, We did not vote out Trump yet.
Sorry I care about these people and don’t just want to use them to feel better about helping. These people died from state violence and you’re basically mocking them with those stickers
“I voted” for the people that let ICE run around pulling people out of their homes.
You think this battle is over but you’re dead wrong. Liberals acting like flipping a few senators ended genocide, war, and police violence. Worse than Reddit rn
“People like me”
Point to where I ever said any of that shit you just slopped at me… Then when you realize that I didn’t, and you’re just projecting at me to create a pallatable strawman to coddle your little insecurities, point that fucking finger up your ass.
Relax. I’m trying to have a serious conversation. If your “action” you meant in your original comment means only Voting for democrats, I only mean to warn you they aren’t much better on ICE/police policy.
Don’t condescend to me like I’m not watching what’s fucking going on after coming at these comments like some self-righteous arbiter of truth and morality. I will relax when I don’t have some asshole on lemmy griping about people who are actually out there using what power they have to try to influence future outcomes for the better in this increasingly despotic fascist regime. I fucking hope you’re out there phonebanking for progressive canditates and engaging with officials about how desperately we cannot allow status quo fuckery to block the action you claim to want now that there’s some power to affect it, cause if not you can continue to fuck all the way off, and frankly, even if you are you can goddamn well check yourself up in here.
I said relax dude. There’s no use being so angry. I’m way past phone banking lmfao. I mean organization in unions or at food banks. Yes we have to force the state to give us funding but again that goes beyond phone banking.
Instead of wasting time on harassing staffers with phone calls spend that time joining your local rent strike. Some asshole removed at you on Lemmy about the blue wave isn’t the problem you think it is, go out and actually hold them to it, not just a phone call.
You think thats sick? Just wait until you see what happens to sleepy dons grave
Well yeah but he has to die first. Why would you want to disrespect these graves like you would Trumps?
I hope only things you deserve happen to you from now on.
I want ice cream!
Sorry, the ice cream parlor is closed, Hun. But I’ll tell you what. Since you’ve been well-mannered this week, we can go to the convenience store and get candy or we can go home and have popsicles.
No! That’s bullshit. I want ice cream and fuck you for thinking that popsicles and candy are a nice consolation prize. Open a new ice cream parlor that berates anyone thats happy about popsicles on occasion! 😡
What
Its a metaphorical representation of your comment.
People are memorializing their unnecessary deaths by showing that they went and voted against the fascists that caused it. It shows their their deaths will not be in vain and their memory serves as motivation to continue to fight for a better country. It’s not just some virtue signal about going to vote. The sentiment runs a little deeper than that.
Well it makes no fucking sense to me lol. This comment does. Leave their memorial alone. Or leave flowers, not “I voted”. Democrats were in power when ice was kidnapping and killing people in Minnesota streets.
I admit the first time I saw this I thought it meant their graves. Memorial is different, it’s definitely fucked up if anyone put “I voted” on their grave
Seems to me like you’re holding more reverence for the dead than the living.
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A grave is, by definition, a memorial