Is it because of Elon at the helm of the company or moreso because the car itself is poorly made, unreliable, etc? I have a few friends who own Tesla’s, and I get mixed answers. Some say the quality is good others say it’s a POS.
It almost varies from car to car in my very limited experience. Just from outside one, the build quality varies wildly. I worked for a surgery center for a few years and didn’t notice until I saw 2 Drs parked side by side and one of them had massive body panels gaps that even I noticed. Having seen the difference, I can see it when I pass by parked ones as I go around town.
The lack of consistency is a deal breaker for me, even if the company wasn’t run by a south African Nazi
Did you look at the relative age of the vehicles? Consistency of finish was a widely publicized issue while they were struggling with quality trying to ramp up, but you rarely to never read about that anymore. I believe quality has consistently improved and one from the last couple model years will be significantly better than the first couple years of mass production.
However my direct experience is with a model y
2023, so more modern, quality issues have been largely worked out
more gigacast pieces. T least at the time, the claim was that having both front and back chassis gigacast means they’re starting with perfect alignment - fewer places for misaligned body panels to happen.
Really? The one person that’s taken over 1 mill miles had to replace batteries and motors like it was their job. The vast majority are unwilling to do that. To call them reliable is a half-truth at best. Sure the EV1 was reliable, but it was much more basic. It was a true electric car, not a smart phone on wheels.
Are you seriously not reading the post? 1 million miles cost them more than double the cost of the car to fix shit. A 1 million mile Tesla with batteries and motors replaced can’t be compared to a 50 year old Volvo still running the same engine it was paired with. If you replace everything on the car other than the vin, is it even the same car? That Volvo is worth more than it ever was new. That will never be true of a Tesla. #s matching. If you have an infinite amount of money, you could get a yugo to do over 1 million miles.
Buddy, no engine goes for one million miles. Cylinders fail and engines get replaced. You seem to have some idealistic example in your head that every gas car can go for a million miles with “proper maintenance”. Not everybody has some old Volvo which has bucked the trend and lasted forever. Please, be honest with yourself.
Electric car batteries go for 200k miles with proper care, the same as your average gas car. So stop it with your fear-mongering bullshit.
Yeah, million mile cars are rare, obviously. But to claim it’s reliable when you have to replace that much shit to get there is nonsense. It’s well known that they have issues making them unusable and cost ineffective in the long run.
I’m absolutely for effective EVs but I’m not going to suck the dick of a company that does so poorly, while sucking on the government teat and act like that’s a company we need. We don’t need 8,000 lb vehicles that’ll do 0-60 in 3 seconds.
Then you must be a Tesla fan? Tesla’s made for EV vehicles have always been much lighter than legacy manufacturers first attempts at converting their ice cars to EV. My model Y is half that weight, and the biggest “car” style is the model X at 5,200 pounds
I own 2 Model 3’s. I waited in line the day before the reveal to plunk down $1000 to reserve it sight-unseen.
I will never buy a Tesla again, and want to unload my 2 as soon as a comparable replacement is available. I’m embarrassed to drive mine around.
I’m really hoping Rivian can pull off mass production of the R2 and R3.
Me too.
Is it because of Elon at the helm of the company or moreso because the car itself is poorly made, unreliable, etc? I have a few friends who own Tesla’s, and I get mixed answers. Some say the quality is good others say it’s a POS.
It almost varies from car to car in my very limited experience. Just from outside one, the build quality varies wildly. I worked for a surgery center for a few years and didn’t notice until I saw 2 Drs parked side by side and one of them had massive body panels gaps that even I noticed. Having seen the difference, I can see it when I pass by parked ones as I go around town.
The lack of consistency is a deal breaker for me, even if the company wasn’t run by a south African Nazi
As a South African liberal: hey bru chillax.
If you take offense at Elon being called a Nazi, but think of yourself as a “liberal,” you might want to take a moment to reflect on why.
It felt like he was taking offense to throwing in the South African thing. But I could be wrong.
…again, if your attention is focused on the South African part, and avoiding the Nazi part, you might want to think about that.
Did you look at the relative age of the vehicles? Consistency of finish was a widely publicized issue while they were struggling with quality trying to ramp up, but you rarely to never read about that anymore. I believe quality has consistently improved and one from the last couple model years will be significantly better than the first couple years of mass production.
However my direct experience is with a model y
They’ve been great cars. The fit and finish is kind of lackluster, but the cars run great, are fun to drive, and have been extremely reliable.
I’m in the same boat. On the one hand, it’s the best car I’ve ever owned. On the other hand, Elon Musk.
Really? The one person that’s taken over 1 mill miles had to replace batteries and motors like it was their job. The vast majority are unwilling to do that. To call them reliable is a half-truth at best. Sure the EV1 was reliable, but it was much more basic. It was a true electric car, not a smart phone on wheels.
Are you seriously complaining about a car crapping out at one million miles?!?
Are you seriously not reading the post? 1 million miles cost them more than double the cost of the car to fix shit. A 1 million mile Tesla with batteries and motors replaced can’t be compared to a 50 year old Volvo still running the same engine it was paired with. If you replace everything on the car other than the vin, is it even the same car? That Volvo is worth more than it ever was new. That will never be true of a Tesla. #s matching. If you have an infinite amount of money, you could get a yugo to do over 1 million miles.
Buddy, no engine goes for one million miles. Cylinders fail and engines get replaced. You seem to have some idealistic example in your head that every gas car can go for a million miles with “proper maintenance”. Not everybody has some old Volvo which has bucked the trend and lasted forever. Please, be honest with yourself.
Electric car batteries go for 200k miles with proper care, the same as your average gas car. So stop it with your fear-mongering bullshit.
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Someone needs to do a Google search.
Can you be more helpful? Search for what?
Yeah, million mile cars are rare, obviously. But to claim it’s reliable when you have to replace that much shit to get there is nonsense. It’s well known that they have issues making them unusable and cost ineffective in the long run.
I’m absolutely for effective EVs but I’m not going to suck the dick of a company that does so poorly, while sucking on the government teat and act like that’s a company we need. We don’t need 8,000 lb vehicles that’ll do 0-60 in 3 seconds.
Then you must be a Tesla fan? Tesla’s made for EV vehicles have always been much lighter than legacy manufacturers first attempts at converting their ice cars to EV. My model Y is half that weight, and the biggest “car” style is the model X at 5,200 pounds
The cars are fine. There’s a lot of disinformation out there.
Do their respective views on the quality of their Teslas correlate to their views on Musk?
Honestly, that’s the right move. I genuinely assume Tesla drivers are assholes at this stage. I see the Tesla logo as MAGA 2.0.