You’re hired.
By being the least worst candidate. Thank you FPTP voting
It’s not about LOSING the young vote. Not voting is the default position for young people… Always has been (although each generation has gotten better about this)… The question is “how can I keep supporting genocide and still get young people to actually show up and vote?” And of course the answer is bully them relentlessly and never give them anything they ask for /s
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Biden’s US has done the most for providing aid in Gaza by FAR,
Not just that, the U.S has been the largest provider of aid to Palestine for years.
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Biden’s US has done the most for providing aid in Gaza by FAR, they just finished a new pier purely for a safer and more consistent vector for delivering said aid to Gazan people who desperately need it.
but things are not that simple…
Aid deliveries began arriving at a U.S.-built pier on Friday as Israel comes under growing global pressure to allow more supplies into the besieged coastal enclave. The U.N. agreed to assist in coordinating aid distribution from the floating pier, but has remained adamant that deliveries by land are the best way to combat the crisis. The U.N. said that 10 truckloads of food aid - transported from the pier site by U.N. contractors - were received on Friday at a World Food Programme warehouse in Deir El Balah in Gaza.
But on Saturday, only five truckloads made it to the warehouse after 11 others were cleaned out by Palestinians during the journey through an area that a U.N. official said has been hard to access with humanitarian aid. “They’ve not seen trucks for a while,” a U.N. official, speaking on condition of anonymity, told Reuters. “They just basically mounted on the trucks and helped themselves to some of the food parcels.” The U.N. did not receive any aid from the pier on Sunday or Monday. “We need to make sure that the necessary security and logistical arrangements are in place before we proceed,” said the U.N. official.
Aid offloaded at the pier comes via a maritime corridor from Cyprus, where it is first inspected by Israel. The pier operation is estimated to cost $320 million and involve 1,000 U.S. service members. U.S. officials have said the pier would initially handle 90 trucks a day, but that number could go to 150 trucks. The U.N. has said at least 500 trucks a day are needed to enter Gaza.
What is Biden supposed to do here?
The U.N. agreed to assist in coordinating aid distribution from the floating pier, but has remained adamant that deliveries by land are the best way to combat the crisis.
By land, from the other side, we have israeli zionist bastards blocking aid into Gaza:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/israel-gaza-aid-west-bank-settlers-united-nations/
Right-wing Israeli protesters blocked trucks carrying food supplies that were headed into Gaza on Monday in the latest disruption to humanitarian relief for the war-torn Palestinian territory. The trucks were attacked by an Israel group called “Tsav 9” at the Tarqumiya checkpoint, a border crossing from the Israeli-occupied West Bank into Israel, west of the city of Hebron.
“Most of them were settlers. They also live there, they are settlers in the settlements in the area,” she said. “The common theme among all of them is that they are from the right wing Zionist groups. The religious nationalist stream, as we call it.”
They said food will get into Gaza, nothing about it reaching people… Unfortunately.
Let’s make a list!
https://lemmy.world/post/15689024
https://lemmy.world/post/15625030
https://lemmy.world/post/15687050
https://lemmy.world/post/15649169
This is a waste of energy, here:
I’m happy you bookmarked those, smart
I’m voting for Biden because I’m not dumb enough to think forfeiting my vote will help end the genocide, but if goldfish man wins and we become fascist, I will blame Joe Biden for throwing away our democracy in support of Israel.
Same. The Republicans have been insulting anyone who doesn’t stand with them on everything. They claim to be able to criticize Biden, but holy shit am I tired of being insulted for not agreeing with him on genocide. They just continue to push everyone away. So while I am also voting, a part of me doesn’t blame those who are done and not bothering. They want everyone sit down, shut up, never expect to get anything we want, but then to also vote? Kind of fucked.
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If they got somebody clever, it could help mitigate damage (e.g. pointing out Trump’s own worse record, the fact that the GoP basically plans to erase democracy if they win, how some things people wanted are constantly being blocked by the GoP)
Sure as hell won’t help regain lost votes, though
To do that, Biden needs to stop supporting the genocide, or if unable to, make it clear exactly why he is unable to
I mean it worked in 2020. Biden started the campaign with effectively a Republican slate of policy positions. Until the ratfucking on Sunday before super Tuesday, Bernie was running away with it.
To get Bernie’s voters, Biden basically did a lift and shift of Bernie’s entire policy platform. This got him the support of Bernie’s massive grassroots movement, and is what won the election (and why we’ve seen such a progressive slate of domestic policies from Biden). At that time, Biden learned from the lesson that Hillary didn’t: You can’t shame voters into supporting you; you have to prioritize their issues.
Biden can do the same now. Its actually pretty easy to do so. He can come out strongly and say something like “While we still support our ally Israel, this genocide is wrong, and the extermination of a people is never an acceptable answer. Never again means never again, for any community”
And like you said, he can also just explain exactly why he is unable to do certain things. He can can just send some very strong signals.
Biden won in 2020 because Trump absolutely botched the national pandemic response. Now Biden is dealing with a recession on all but name, meteoric inflation, a war in Europe, and a genocide in Gaza. He obviously can’t do much for the economy, but he has the deck stacked against him and is going to need the youth and muslim votes if he hopes to win in November. All he has really done for young voters is a few waves of student loan forgiveness. Nothing he does will win over “moderate” Republicans, so he needs to rally support from young voters.
He’s wiped student loan debt for around 4.75 million people. Sounds like a lot but then you realize there’s 45,000,000 with student loan debt and $1,750,000,000,000 total student loan debt.
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When will Dems stop blaming Republicans for all their shortcomings and “it’s too hard” excuses and actually fight back? Republicans get almost anything they want.
He’s wiped student loan debt for around 4.75 million people
He didn’t wipe the debt out, he just stopped fighting in the courts over an existing loan forgiveness program that Betsy DeVos had decided to fuck with during Trump’s first term. And the bulk of this loan forgiveness came as part of a deal that required 10 years of employment in a public sector career. Fucking with it meant undermining recruitment efforts by the Pentagon, the FBI, etc.
Biden is trying to take credit for a Clinton Era Program, not unilaterally writing off billions in debt.
Even setting aside the fact that $7B isn’t even a percentage point on outstanding debt, this is purely headline gore and has little to do with Biden’s domestic policies.
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So why doesn’t he force Israel to allow the aid deliveries? Biden is the only person on earth that can stop the killing and all he has to do is withdraw his support from Bibi. Instead he makes hollow gestures and lets Israel undermine those gestures.
Many people are very uncomfortable with giving any amount of support to genocide. Couple that with an already apathetic voting population who was been told “this is the most important election of yoir life” every other year for the past 8 years, they would rather just stay home. Blame leftists who want to end the genocide in Gaza all you want, but at the end of the day, the Democrats have been botching their voter outreach.
Yikes. Maybe it’s time for you to log off and get some fresh air for a bit.
I don’t agree with what this commenter is saying, but why was this comment removed?
All he has really done for young voters is a few waves of student loan forgiveness. Nothing he does will win over “moderate” Republicans, so he needs to rally support from young voters.
jesus fucking christ, what goddamn reality are you living in???
This is absolutely false, he has been doing everything possible to forgive student loan debt for kids, he’s the first goddamn president to join workers ON THE FUCKING PICKET LINE. This meme position is yet another branch of this priority to accommodate younger demographics.
Additionally, Biden’s US has done the most for providing aid in Gaza by FAR, they just finished a new pier purely for a safer and more consistent vector for delivering said aid to Gazan people who desperately need it, as Israeli zionists block truck-based aid.
Biden has to be jesus fucking christ himself to satisfy you people goddamn it
ratfucking on Sunday before super Tuesday
Ummm, what is this referring to?
I believe this is referring to the famous Sunday meeting with all of the centrist candidates and former president Obama. This happened right after Bernie won the South Carolina primary.
As a result of that meeting, buttigieg dropped out and endorsed biden (He got Secretary of Transportation)
Klobuchar also dropped out and endorsed Biden. (She got Chairman of the Rules Committee)
Warren, also at the meeting, stayed in the race to split the left-leaning vote.
This backroom meeting was the turning point for the primaries. Previous to this meeting, Bernie had a solid lead. Afterwards, it was all Biden.
This happened right after Bernie won the South Carolina primary.
Right after Bernie won the Nevada primary and shortly before he swept California. Biden won South Carolina in a landslide, thanks to a coalition of Atlantic Coast conservative democrats throwing their corporate lobbyist fueled and Pentagon endorsed support to the most reactionary candidate in the race.
Warren, also at the meeting, stayed in the race to split the left-leaning vote.
This gets overstated. Warren got her knife into Bernie’s back when she accused him of psychically tanking the Hillary campaign. But she had next to no impact on the Midwestern primaries, where Biden trounced Bernie. That was much more about COVID depressing turnout and all the other midwestern candidates dropping out.
Previous to this meeting, Bernie had a solid lead.
He had a few break out states on the West Coast, but he wasn’t yet polling above the 50% line. The Obama endorsement combined with the Klobacher/Buttigieg dropouts consolidated support behind Biden in the Rust Belt. It likely would have been a horse-race into the convention, but it wasn’t a sure thing.
Bernie bro conspiracy theories
The problem with Biden saying he can’t do things is that Trump will just come out the next day and say, “this problem would be solved on day one of my presidency.”
Would it be true? Absolutely not. Would it matter? Absolutely not.
Doesn’t matter… NO ONE is on the fence between Biden and Trump… Anyone on the fence is sitting between Biden and just not showing up… And for most of them, ‘just not showing up’ is the default… They need to be convinced to show up FOR someone, not against someone
Biden isn’t going to win by converting Trump voters. Anybody who still thinks Trump is the best choice for America is not going to change their mind at this point. They are lost causes.
Biden is going to win by breaking apathy and making people realize that he is incredibly limited (by the Republican-led House) on what he can do in Israel. The genocide is popular with both leading parties. It sucks. Get over it.
If you want an honest answer, it’s because for every 1 of the “stop the genocide” people, there’s 2 people who support Israel’s campaign to bomb Palestine. Mainly because Hamas is often seen as representing the Palestinian people and have done everything in their power to destroy sympathy for Palestinians, and secondarily because US-based advocates for a free Palestine have used methods that seem primarily designed to piss people off like setting up camps in public spaces and accusing random passers-by of partaking in genocide.
Source: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-israel-gaza-poll-cbs-news/ Even after a shift away from Israel, only 37% think the US should even encourage Israel to stop the campaign. To me military aid to Israel makes exactly zero sense. But I also live in reality, and cutting off aid entirely would be political suicide until advocates for it do a better job of actually being convincing.
I am a career memesmith, just like my father, and his father before him. In fact, I still have one of grandpappys hand-carved memes from when he was a young shitposter. Back in thise days, you used to have to place your memes in store front windows if you wanted anyone to see them.
This but unironically
Hello fellow youths… Don’t you just love totally not out of touch boomers?
Literally desperate.
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Uht oh, getting close to the truth, see you in the mod log.
I dunno what he said, but you called it lol
Called out OP. Browse Polical memes. You will quickly realize you are looking at a curated space dedicated to 2-3 posters.
I think I’m already banned from there lol
It’s a mess
They spammed the same comment multiple times. It wasn’t the content, but the nature of their commenting. When you copy/paste your comments everywhere, it tends to get flagged as spam.
This mod needs to chill.
They’re going to accommodate us with memes rather than policy… So yeah, fuck Biden still.
It’s really weird that this octogenarian president is having trouble connecting with young voters 🤕
How do you do fellow kids?
I need you to picture the meme, please. Errr… I still don’t know how to put pics in the comments. Sooo…
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Nope
Put an exclamation point in front of the square brackets to change the image from a link to an in-line image. !+[]+(url_of_image) Don’t type the “+” signs!
THANK YOU, KIND STRANGER
Edit: hmmmm that’s not quite right
Edit: AHA I FORGOT THE PARENTHESIS
How does one become a “meme manager” for the president of the United States?
By making memes that old people would think young people liked.
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Is the thinking that Trump will somehow be better? Like holy shit how short sighted are these people? Do they not remember anything from when he was president?
Is the thinking behind this comment that Trump being worse excuses Biden of his failures? He is losing young people by funding a genocide. Not all people are pragmatic, unfortunately.
So either we complain about people not being pragmatic and voting for someone they have a legitimate issue with, OOOORRRR we could be mad at the president of the United States breaking the law and alienating would be voters by giving weapons to a state that has been committing war crimes for over 7 months.
Of course we can do both but let’s not pretend the major problem is “voters with morals” rather than “president aiding a genocide”
It’s pretty fucking basic.
Are we all pretending Trump would somehow be better for the situation overseas?
But hey let’s just not vote for democracy and hope it all just works itself out.
Are we all pretending Trump would somehow be better for the situation overseas?
Can you show me where I did that? You can even look through my comment history if you like. Didn’t happen here. Never happened anywhere.
But hey let’s just not vote for democracy and hope it all just works itself out.
Hey let’s just give weapons to someone we know is going to use it to commit war crimes in violation of our own laws and basic morals and hope the election just kind of works itself out.
I agree democracy is important to protect and Biden needs to win in order to do that. That’s exactly the issue…
…You know, if you’re solely thinking about American politics and not whether or not it’s bad to destroy every single hospital in a region and slowly starve children to death.
Yes, they are pretending Trump will be better for Palestine.
And all of them will go quiet when Trump enables total annihilation of the Palestinian people. Maybe some of them will find a way to blame Biden, but I think the majority of accounts will be abandoned the day after the election.
If you honestly think saying “Biden is not good on Palestine” is saying “Trump is better than Biden on Palestine” I think you have a way bigger problem than the outcome of the election
If you feel that a comment said to somebody else doesn’t apply to you, it probably wasn’t directed at you.
That being said, the people who are poisoning the well against Biden, the ones who have made Palestine the only issue affecting this election, the ones screaming “genocide Joe,” their actions are going to lead to more dead Palestinians than anything Biden has done.
My comment, then someone says “are we pretending trump will be better?” In response, then this person says “yes.” If they’re not talking to me and are just talking generally about other people that do this in reply to my comment, pretty weird, but my point still stands.
their actions are going to lead to more dead Palestinians than anything Biden has done.
Uh huh. Who has been arming Israel again?
If the choice you get to make is 30,000 dead civilians or a person who outright said Israel needs to “finish the job,” and you are campaigning against the lesser amount of deaths, you bear moral responsibility when total annihilation happens.
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Goddamn, your arguments sound like a naive little child who is upset they can’t have it all. Welcome to the real world bud.
Because I think the US president shouldn’t be aiding a genocide? I didn’t realise this was such a big ask. Upset that I can’t “have it all” as if this is me wanting to not have to pay taxes or something.
Biden’s US has done the most for providing aid in Gaza by FAR
I agree he’s helped with aid. Also helped create the need for the aid though so it undermines it somewhat.
What is Biden supposed to do here?
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By land, from the other side, we have israeli zionist bastards blocking aid into Gaza
How about: “Israel, open the fucking crossings, remove the protesters and stop arbitrarily delaying aid into Gaza otherwise there will be no more arms and we will delay aid to you until the problem is fixed.”
“We will stop providing cover for you at the UN if you don’t fix this problem immediately.”
Many similar things. He has leverage he is not using over the people who are primarily responsible for this issue.
I don’t expect Biden to do it all but he’s been trying to convince them to not be monsters for 7 months now and it isn’t going so well. He needs to step it up.
They remember, and they want it back. They’re fascists who are too cowardly to claim the label - which is impressive, as fascists are generally pretty cowardly to begin with.
This line of thinking implies there are only two possible positions: “Uncritical support for Biden” and “I’m going to criticize genocide and I also want to let fascists rule, for some reason”. Have you thought that perhaps you’re missing a lot of nuance about what people think?
It’s a binary choice dude. One or the other will win.
I give somewhat of a pass to comments that say “Biden is the only sane choice, but he’s wrong for this”. Comments that just shit on Biden are obvious attempts to suppress the Democratic vote.
Right, it couldn’t be that normal humans beings are fucking horrified at their own country enabling a genocide, and demanding every single criticism of the Democratic Party to be accompanied by “I will vote for them though” is reasonable.
Don’t worry. Even if you tell them you’re voting for Biden, they’ll ignore it every time you say it.
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Meh, seems to be working for the Trump trolls. Lemmy went from being anti Trump to pro Trump practically overnight and around the time the tankie memes started spamming in. Maybe the opposition should try this strategy.
I haven’t seen any pro-Trump content making a big dent here (maybe that’s just my experience).
Are you simply classifying any criticism of the sitting president as being automatically pro-trump?
Given your use of “tankie” I’m willing to bet that’s what’s really going on.
Do you think Trump is going to do anything to stop genocide in the middle east?
Your response confirms my suspicion.
