• ConfusedPuppy@lemmygrad.ml
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    4 days ago

    I join a new org, and now I’m realising they see China as imperialist. Festering in my liberalism by not bringing this up to them. Is this a big enough thing to consider not organizing with this group? Its hard for me to do a proper analysis of the org due to disability issues so I am asking for input.

    • 小莱卡@lemmygrad.ml
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      3 days ago

      Its a dealbreaker for me, but try poking around other members to see where they’re at, maybe there is someone salvageable.

      At this conjuction of time, any org that sees China as imperialist is a joke and has to be considered reactionary.

    • Ember_NE@lemmygrad.ml
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      3 days ago

      Depends. I’d think like this:

      • Is it a big party, with some marxist and some soc-dems etc.? Try to find like-minded comrades and use it as a way to agitate for and educate about marxist politics (if that is possible within the structure)
      • Is it a small cadre party? If so you might want to skip out
      • Is it a specific issue group? See if you can work in a positive way about the specific issue and discuss the topic amicably if it shows up. BUT this depens a lot on the situation!

      If you are unsure, discuss with a comrade you know, write a journal, and go with your gut feeling, and don’t attach yourself too much to something you are skeptical of.

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      3 days ago

      Yeah thats a red flag… and not the good kind. Write a speech denouncing them for falling into idealism and imperialist propaganda.

      • Makan@lemmygrad.ml
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        3 days ago

        I disagree with this approach.

        It is best to just exit.

        Leftist groups, at least certain ones, can act very cultish and they may gossip and badmouth you to others to other activist organizations in the area, for example. Also, there are other forms of reprisal.

        Honestly, as someone that has dealt with this stuff not too long ago, I would just bow out and not make it into an event if you can.

        Tagging @[email protected] so they see.