I think you’re missing the point of the original comment. Describing modern conservatism as a disability at once absolves conservatives of their responsibility not to hold abhorrent views, by classing it as a characteristic they have no control over, and lumps people with disabilities into a group that, in a non-insignificant number of cases, wants them dead or sterilised.
That’s why the commenter was upset with you; not because you’ve criticised eugenics, but because you’ve been massively insensitive, and when someone pointed out that insensitivity you became defensive and attacked them in return.
I don’t think sane people are able to believe in things like Jewish space lasers, so I don’t think your average GOP voter should be held accountable for believing that kind of nonsense - they should be provided mental health care and an education in critical thinking skills. The people spreading those insane lies are a different story.
I don’t care if I get downvoted, I’m not here for that. I have been downvoted recently by neoliberals on this site for literally saying everyone should have the right to vote (and I quoted Lyndon B Johnson and the fucking constitution about this), so we can see how much a downvote is worth here. This isn’t a site for leftists or progressives, or even people with a basic understanding of the Civil Rights Era, and I understand that. So ofc there is someone advocating for something Nazi adjacent here, like medicalizing an entire voting base. Medicalizing something that isn’t a medical condition, especially acting as if their cognition is what is wrong, is something historically done to women in the US right before they got fucking lobotomized and put into conservatorship. It’s a conviction and punishment with no trial. Fascism. Not to mention what the actual Nazis did to people they considered disabled.
It’s not “pointing out” anything to medicalize them. It’s an attempt to erode their rights by using laws that ALREADY abuse disabled people.
It’s so funny how disabled people are the perfect weapon for pieces of shit who dont care about them. No one cares about helping the disabled unless it means they can weaponize them against another group they hate. Usually it’s the homeless but ig today it’s conservatives.
Yep - it’s rational, correct cognition to think that Haitians are stealing and eating people’s dogs, that Jewish space lasers caused the California wildfires, that a multi-trillion dollar fence will stop illegal immigration, that Hannibal Lecter was a real and good person, that Clinton should be locked up, but I’m voting for the felon, that the election was stolen, that the Democratic Party is a sinister communist cabal, that Michelle Obama is a man, that Biden has opened the borders and is importing millions of immigrants to steal the election, that the deep state is conspiring to do everything we don’t like…
These are the mainstream views of the party as propagated by its leaders - it says nothing of the chemtrails making the frogs gay, hollow earth types.
…and here you are, fantasising about me abusing and weaponising the disabled - maybe even pushing for a little light lobotomy because that allows you to feel morally superior. Personally, I’d recommend stepping out of your fantasy, grounding your comments in reality and being morally superior, but what would my apparently Nazi arse know?
Most conservatives don’t believe in those things, though. That’s all propaganda being fed to them.
I’m not fantasizing about your views regarding the disabled, I’m taking issue with what you literally said and explained why. If you don’t understand ableism, that’s on you.
No, if you can’t draw the line between me advocating for greater support for a community, and my exploitation of that community, that’s on you, my guy.
Believing in deep-state Jewish space lasers, the sinister communist plot to steal the election, and roving gangs of Haitians snatching up and barbecuing dogs is totally rational stuff, I hear.
You’re getting downvoted because you’re more disgusted by people talking about the problem than you are by the problem.
Denying eugenics would be disgusting,
Covering for those that support eugenics would be disgusting,
Being disgusted by someone pointing out the disgusting hypocrisy of eugenics and modern conservatism is disgusting.
Pointing out how monstrous and hypocritical modern conservatives and eugenicists are is a moral good.
I think you’re missing the point of the original comment. Describing modern conservatism as a disability at once absolves conservatives of their responsibility not to hold abhorrent views, by classing it as a characteristic they have no control over, and lumps people with disabilities into a group that, in a non-insignificant number of cases, wants them dead or sterilised.
That’s why the commenter was upset with you; not because you’ve criticised eugenics, but because you’ve been massively insensitive, and when someone pointed out that insensitivity you became defensive and attacked them in return.
I don’t think sane people are able to believe in things like Jewish space lasers, so I don’t think your average GOP voter should be held accountable for believing that kind of nonsense - they should be provided mental health care and an education in critical thinking skills. The people spreading those insane lies are a different story.
I don’t care if I get downvoted, I’m not here for that. I have been downvoted recently by neoliberals on this site for literally saying everyone should have the right to vote (and I quoted Lyndon B Johnson and the fucking constitution about this), so we can see how much a downvote is worth here. This isn’t a site for leftists or progressives, or even people with a basic understanding of the Civil Rights Era, and I understand that. So ofc there is someone advocating for something Nazi adjacent here, like medicalizing an entire voting base. Medicalizing something that isn’t a medical condition, especially acting as if their cognition is what is wrong, is something historically done to women in the US right before they got fucking lobotomized and put into conservatorship. It’s a conviction and punishment with no trial. Fascism. Not to mention what the actual Nazis did to people they considered disabled.
It’s not “pointing out” anything to medicalize them. It’s an attempt to erode their rights by using laws that ALREADY abuse disabled people.
It’s so funny how disabled people are the perfect weapon for pieces of shit who dont care about them. No one cares about helping the disabled unless it means they can weaponize them against another group they hate. Usually it’s the homeless but ig today it’s conservatives.
Yep - it’s rational, correct cognition to think that Haitians are stealing and eating people’s dogs, that Jewish space lasers caused the California wildfires, that a multi-trillion dollar fence will stop illegal immigration, that Hannibal Lecter was a real and good person, that Clinton should be locked up, but I’m voting for the felon, that the election was stolen, that the Democratic Party is a sinister communist cabal, that Michelle Obama is a man, that Biden has opened the borders and is importing millions of immigrants to steal the election, that the deep state is conspiring to do everything we don’t like…
These are the mainstream views of the party as propagated by its leaders - it says nothing of the chemtrails making the frogs gay, hollow earth types.
…and here you are, fantasising about me abusing and weaponising the disabled - maybe even pushing for a little light lobotomy because that allows you to feel morally superior. Personally, I’d recommend stepping out of your fantasy, grounding your comments in reality and being morally superior, but what would my apparently Nazi arse know?
Most conservatives don’t believe in those things, though. That’s all propaganda being fed to them.
I’m not fantasizing about your views regarding the disabled, I’m taking issue with what you literally said and explained why. If you don’t understand ableism, that’s on you.
Propaganda they believe.
No, if you can’t draw the line between me advocating for greater support for a community, and my exploitation of that community, that’s on you, my guy.
Where do you live? What conservatives do you talk to irl? I don’t know ANY conservatives who believe all that.
I’m disgusted by people who use disability as a pejorative.
Attack Republicans all you want, but drag marginalized people into your insults and you can go fuck yourself.
Republicanism isn’t a mental disability. It’s a moral failure.
Believing in deep-state Jewish space lasers, the sinister communist plot to steal the election, and roving gangs of Haitians snatching up and barbecuing dogs is totally rational stuff, I hear.