The amount of propaganda they believe and are certain of plus their unending love for capitalism is just mind blowing. I’m done trying to convince people of the opposite, they will either arrive at the truth themselves or never will.
You can have the most level headed discussion about something, cite sources, evidence etc. and still get called “chinese/russian propaganda” or “show me where socialism works” or “I will not live under a dictatorship like they do in china” or “If we let china dictate our lives we are all working in sweatshops or 996”.
Sorry for venting, I’m just more and more realising that people straight up believe something without ever challenging that narrative and it’a frustrating.
Can we not with the goofy generalizations that reek of elitist “I’m so smart and above the masses” thinking?
That not what i said. Please don’t the outraged by things I didn’t say.
You said:
This type of thing is said by people who believe they are decidedly not “vibing through life without asking why” (unless you are going to tell me you think you are one of them). Thus, elitist, as in “I’m smart enough to ask why and they aren’t.”
What you are likely observing (if there is any accurate generalization to be salvaged here) is more like: Many people are very busy, overworked, and tired, and have little energy for long discussions on subjects with a lot of intellectual jargon. Furthermore, many of them are held back by frameworks of thought pushed by the exploiting classes, so that when they do ask why, the first answer they will tend to go for is some bougie, simplistic idea of how the world works. Such as “humanity will always irredeemably suck and struggle to be decent” or “people are stupid” or “people are tribal”, and so on. When dealing with such people, we need to ask them why. Prod them on what their real thought process is, identify it, and then we can better get through.
I mean, that was my takeaway from the comment, in fewer words.