Reddit being down is how I found out about this place. This is literally my first post here. Thanks for sucking Reddit!
Welcome, hope you like Linux memes…and beans.
And jeans!
and also me pondering my orb
Lots of beans. All the beans.
Hey that’s not fair!
…we’ve also got Star Trek memes.
Don’t forget to apply to the No Poop Challenge!
Jokes aside, welcome. It’s a bit messy but fun here. Make sure to take a look at how instances work, for most part you can ignore it but it does improve a lot your experience.
The top two mistakes I ever made on the Fediverse were unknowingly posting in Chapotraphouse in hexbear.net, and similarly in Lemmygrad.ml. Lemmy was practically unusable for me until I realized I could block those instances (and later lemmy.ml), which improved my happiness here by >99%, no joke.
Definitely it’s worth paying attention to how instances work.
I’m the same way… I don’t like to block people because I want to know what everybody’s saying… But I had to block hex bear. I normally just scroll all and they were everywhere all the time everyday and it just got too much.
I used to be quite proud of myself for never blocking anyone on Reddit, ever. Also I was a mod of a couple of gaming subs, so it wouldn’t have worked in those anyway:-). But eventually I realized… it wasn’t helping my state of mind, and rather it was affecting my irl relationships too. So I stepped back from modding, and finally blocked a particularly onerous troll account that I did not want to ban as a mod, but I sure did enjoy blocking him as a normal user.:-)
There’s a saying about the only thing we must not tolerate is intolerance, and it doesn’t quite go far enough imho as to state the consequences of failing to block intolerance - that they drag us down to become more like them:-(.
and finally blocked a particularly onerous troll account that I did not want to ban as a mod, but I sure did enjoy blocking him as a normal user.:-)
Just for curiosity, what was the troll doing?
I got a few of them from my Reddit mod times too, but since I was moderating smaller subs I had some freedom to tweak the rules towards their behaviour. (Because if I’m getting annoyed by the troll, odds are that other members are too.)
Standard troll (like toddler) stuff: pushing boundaries to see just exactly how far they could go, while stopping just inside the stated rules.
The reason I didn’t ban him is that his trolling was directed almost solely at me as the mod, but to the rest of the community he was actually quite helpful, and even somewhat kind 95% of the time. Some kind of problem with authority I suppose, even though I’d previously offered him my mod position but he turned it down.
We all have bad seasons in life, and I shudder to think what he went through during the pandemic. Not that it matters bc behavior is always a choice - Hitler’s home life surely wasn’t fantastic either - but by way of explanation, I do wonder how much the pandemic encouraged trolling on the internet world-wide (most likely: it simply became the latest in a very long like of reasons). And anyway, he was definitely this way before that started, so at best it would be an exaggerating factor.
He seemed good at masking behaviors, thus overall he was better for the community than he was annoying. And it was a small community (at least among regular posters) to begin with. And I was getting super annoyed by the game itself, and by Reddit, so rather than kick him out I stepped down as mod (I had been training someone already, and a prior mod returned from before the pandemic, so it was in good hands) and left the sub myself instead, and now there’s “peace” over there:-).
Urgh, the complicated type. When the user is just plain bad you ban them, when the user is mostly good you leave them alone, but when it’s mixed this way no matter what you do you feel like you did the wrong thing.
I get why you simply blocked him though - it feels sensible in this case.
I do wonder how much the pandemic encouraged trolling on the internet world-wide
My granny would say that “an empty mind is the Devil’s workshop”. I think that’s the case with the pandemics, a lot of people were stuck at home with too little to do, too little to think about.
To be honest my own troll Reddit account saw far more activity during the pandemic. (I avoided making it personal against anyone there though - I had more fun taunting whole circlejerks instead.) But by then I wasn’t a mod any more for years.
I’m out of the loop on the meta despite being active on the platform. What’s the deal with those other two servers? I can see they have strong “personalities”.
They have some… interesting political viewpoints, that is for sure. The thing is, regardless of that, it’s like a self-styled “alpha” person who looks down on everything that they refuse to understand themselves - they dish out an insane amount of criticism (that’s the literal sole purpose of a place like ChapoTrapHouse, read its very own community statement of purpose), yet cannot handle even the slightest wisp of not even criticism but honest questioning in return (anything less than obsequiousness right off the bat).
They are often derogatorily called “tankies”, due to how they believe in the conspiracy theory that no casualties occured at Tiananmen Square, ignoring all the videos, photos, and first-hand accounts from people who were actually there. Also, Russia and China are “communist”, more importantly are “not” doing genocide, and instead it is the USA that is doing “genocide”, not just supporting others doing it but directly I mean, as best I can tell meaning for the reason that it is capitalist and that somehow capitalism = genocide (but again, their preferred nations are “not” capitalistic, nor “doing genocide” in their minds, in complete defiance of all facts otherwise, most especially those experienced first-hand by e.g. someone who directly lost a family member to such).
But again, their political viewpoints aren’t the main thing, it’s what that reveals about how they approach the world. i.e., consent does not matter - or rather, it must but only when directed at them, yet never in reverse. i.e. remember that style of logic that stopped working for you when you were 5 years old? (“I know you are but what am I?”) Yeah, they are still using that - and somehow it works!? Also styles that tbf have baffled experts for years, like gish gallop and reverse gish gallop, etc.
And since they have existed in echo chambers for many years now, they actually believe this stuff. The problem is, they also still believe it when they leave those echo chambers and come over here, to “leave their mark” upon any conversation that doesn’t go 100% their way. You’ll see it yourself soon enough - if you haven’t already - though Lemmy.World already defederates the worst of them, lemmygrad.ml and hexbear.net. As I mentioned, you might also want to block lemmy.ml.
Also, Innuendo Studios has a cool video series about these matters, titled “Why Are You So Angry”, and then another much better one albeit a bit less related so for this topic more of a follow-up after that one, titled “The Alt-Right Playbook” if you want to follow up further, but basically it’s a super-deep rabbit hole that ultimately may literally end democracy on earth, on the one hand, but also it affects how much we are allowed or not allowed to talk about things on the internet too, without huge push-back from bullies.
it’s a bit messy
From all the users that failed the No Poop Challenge 😔
DRRRRRRRRRRR…
Don’t forget to apply to the No Poop Challenge!
what
It’s a local meme.
A year ago or so someone posted in AskLemmy “I need to survive for 3 days while pooping as much as possible. I can pee as often as I like. It can take up loads of space. What food do I pack?” Apparently they were serious with the question, but… well, it’s bloody hilarious and suddenly everyone was joking about it.
The original thread was deleted, but you see plenty copycat threads like this one.
Wasn’t the I need to not poop the first one? The link posted doesn’t open for me.
You’re right - I copied the title of the post without noticing that they flipped it. (I can’t find the original any more.)
The link from .ml opens fine for me.
That explains it lol
Yeah, after the API changes I created a lemmy account
Welcome! Watch out for Hexbear and the .ml instances, lots of disinformation and propaganda
Welcome! You might want to check out [email protected] for tips and stuff.
Welcome to Lemmy. Glad to get new people here.
Just a quick FAQ because newbies tend to get some common things wrong:
Q: What is a “community”?
A: A community is basically a subreddit that lives in a specific instance
Q: What are we called in Lemmy?
A: Most people use “lemming”
Q: What is an instance?
A: An instance is basically a server. For example, you registered at lemmy.world. lemmy.world is an instance. With the power of federation, you don’t need to register at other fediverse platforms to interact with stuff there here (only applicable to federated AND supported fediverse platforms). For example, mastodon.social can mostly interact with lemmy servers (instances)
Also, don’t mind the old looking minimalstic UI of lemmy. A revamp of the UI with a more modern design is being developed as we speak
Any questions welcome.
Welcome.
Welcome!
Welcome ! Have a look at [email protected] for communities that might interest you
Commas, please!
And welcome :)
Oh no! Anyways…
Damn it, you beat me to it.
Reddit.com still works. Old.reddit.com does not.
Wonder if they’ve decided to finally do away with old reddit?
Edit: Old.reddit is back up for what it’s worth.
new.reddit.com still works it seems. I think they’re going to take Old.Reddit.com offline, the bastards. If they do that, I may end up back here at Lemmy fulltime. I know none of you want that!
That’s the final nail for a lot of people
I wish I still believed that
Not gonna happen. They’ll just re-lube the old condom while Reddit rapes them again.
Jesus dude
Wow uh maybe pump the brakes on the hyperbole there boyo
I’m…Imma be over here…was n…nice meeting you…
Christ lemmings are fucking fragile
i occasionally use reddit and they’ve killed new.reddit lol, the new new layout is permanent
Same issue here.
I think it’s just a temporary issue, but I really will stop using Reddit if old.reddit.com goes down. There are niches that just aren’t on here… but that UI.
The UI is unacceptable and an exercise in everything wrong with modern UI.
I like how much it obsesses over your post’s engagement metrics. I feel like that creates toxic incentive’s, but… shrug. What do I know?
Both don’t work for me.
Back up now for me, all frontends.
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They are going to use the scrapping of old as the reason why. My apps that scrape it are down.
My how I Wish lemmy was better.
Piefed, Sublinks, and Mbin are all coming along.
Weird, it’s been down for me since June of last year.
Yeah same.
Literally thousands. That’s all the humans that are left.
Funny how they have the audacity to complain about this place being botted when their bot problem is so, SO much worse.
i dont think i’ve seen more than 3 botted users here lmao
Yeah there really are not that many here, and while there are probably more who hide in the background, it’s nowhere near what the Reddit scabs/stans claim when they talk shit about Lemmy and alternative platforms in general.
‘alternative is not ‘click 3 buttons’, therefore it sucks balls and no one should use it’
Nooooo, the poor 100 users and 2 billion bots!
When my Lemmy instance is down (which is very rare, much more stable than Reddit), I just browse via a different instance!
Another strength of decentralized social media
It’s beautiful. I’ve been here when world was down and the rest of Lemmy runs business as usual.
I wonder if they try to plan server updates around each other for this reason
Same here, lol
Who cares? Reddit has historically had a ton of outtages. Why even post this?
I don’t get it either. I know a lot of lemmy users have an axe to grind with reddit, but treating every temporary outage like it’s dead forever is just bizarre.
It’s like honestly delusional behavior. Just a huge echo chamber repeating the same boring shit over and over. It’s ironic because one of the reasons that people came to Lemmy was to eacape the Reddit circklejerk culture.
On top of it, this is fucking Daily Mail. They fell for a Daily Mail shock value story.
Yeah back when still used reddit I found myself scrolling through the comments of coping redditters on downdetector.com at least once every couple of months I swear, and I was never even that active
True that. It’s incredible how terrible reddit is from the technical point of view. You can clearly see that even if they have good engineers there, they aren’t getting any resources to do their job properly.
Think of all the poor bots that can’t repost!
In some faraway data center fan noise has reduced somewhat for the duration.
Not just the US. Can’t access it from NZ either.
I definitely prefer the vibe of lemmy but there’s still communities I visit on Reddit for reviews and discussions about more niche topics.
I hope reddit dies
All corporate social media needs to die
Eventually it will, these for-profit venture capitalist companies always eat themselves sooner or later, it’s only a matter of time.
…butt I’m on the toilet! I need my precious!
Use Lemmy
What’s Lemmy?
Hell yeah
Hang on, I’m 3D printing a tiny violin.
I will lend you this one in the meantime:
I was looking something up and of course Reddit came up but kept telling me “YOU BROKE REDDIT”.
What a shitty way to express an issue that your site is causing for users. Just go ahead and blame the users. That’s great for noobs who don’t know anything and will legitimately think they did something wrong on their end.
why do honest communicstion when yould instead make people feel guilty and coerce them into coming back
Look, I hate reddit as much as the next person, but if you don’t realize that page is a joke, you’re too dumb for the internet.
Of course it’s a joke, but also…
Whether intentional or not, it does kinda reflect the spirit of toxic insensitivity. Also, however it started, they left it that way even after this fact was pointed out to them.
Ding ding ding. Its possible to pass off dark patterns as jokes and jokes to become dark patterns when the joke isn’t funny anymore
It’s the same reason the KKK wears masks - cowards like to hide behind dog whistle language, when they feel disinclined to face any actual consequences of their beliefs and actions.
By that comparison, Reddit’s message isn’t even so bad (as KKK hate speech!:-), but it does look like it may fall into a similar category at least.
Or not - surely its founder is totally a nice guy who really was simply joking around there with the messaging strategy, no toxicity there at all, amiright!?
Reddit down report #420 this year.
Tell me when AWS or something is down. Reddit goes down so often it becomes a nothing burger
