Idk what is most surprising here:
- he hasn’t gotten it covered (apparently had since 2006)
- this made it through the pod save edit to be shown on their video
- pod save had him on
Wonder what the excuses will be this time on why it’s okay he’s still in the race as if he wins probably will be another fetterman.
Or maybe I’m so conspiracy brained I wonder if this is a way to make the ancient governor running look like the best candidate
Western/ Global North “leftists” try not to fall for another social fascist challenge (Impossible).
Even before this came out, the fact that this guy is an Iraq/ Afghan War vet who went there FOUR times, once as a BLACKWATER MERCENARY who is also proud of this fact and refuses to acknowledge what he did was wrong should have been a massive red flag. I know a lot of people here don’t like BadEmpanada, but he was 100% in the right to condemn Hasan and everyone else who supported this guy.
Dude enlisted in the marines, the branch you go to when you want to commit heinous warcrimes (euphemistically termed as “fucking shit up”). The people who sign up for financial reasons or don’t really want to be there join the army or navy. You can see it in racial statistics where the US navy has the most POC while the marines has the least. Even using propaganda as an excuse, there’s an (overly simplified and misleading) understanding that you’re going to shoot people if you’re a marine while you’re just stuck on a boat if you’re a sailor. Now factor in the fact that the marines has the highest minimum physical requirements compared with the other branches, and it paints him and every other marine recruit as people who really want to commit warcrimes.
Hasan supported this guy? lol 😔
im pretty sure most people on this website did up til about a week ago, as evidenced by the fact that all i know about him is that about a week ago he was well regarded and now its come out his whole shit was a lie
Anyone could look at his national socialist platform and guess where this was going. He was talking about helping veterans and revitalizing the shipbuilding industry while being an unrepentant mercenary/imperialist
Ya I remember telling a friend I don’t know anything about this guy but from what I had seen so far, he was pretty based before. Now I’m pretty embarrassed, but oh well, you’ve got to adjust with new information. All I remember seeing on here was posts of his leaked reddit comments saying capitalism needs to be torn down, the shit the US is doing abroad is bad, the military radicalized him, things like that.
I didn’t know he was a Blackwater mercenary who had reenlisted multiple times, doesn’t regret it and says everything he did was good, and he has a Nazi tattoo. Obviously, thats some different context lol.
BadEmpanada’s stance is basically that no veterans should be part of the left regardless of their opinion now about the US military or any regrets they may have. Him being right is less about good analysis or good judgement of character and more about being a broken clock. He has the same opinion of Mike Prysner that he does of Graham Platner.
countdown to parasocial dipshits talking about how Hasan “cOuLDn’t hAVe KnOWn” that the mass murderer who went back to Iraq (?) multiple times, at least once as a literal mercenary, was secretly a racist war criminal
And yes people are already defending Hasan. Come on, people. A member of the democratic party who again was a literal, unrepentant mercenary, is in fact not going to be a secret anti imperialist antifa super soldier just because he said he wants medicare for all.
He’ll just do the same thing he always does (like when he platformed zionist Matt Duss) when he gets critiqued from his left: infantilize his critics and disregard their input as “unserious” or “para-social”.
Yeah, I have zero respect for Hasan. I mostly just find it frustrating how eager people are to let him off the hook because he’s dumb and pretty.
This can’t be real that’s so goddamn funny, especially after all the “I know he’s an imperialist but he made based posts once” talk
American leftists are so desperately thirsty for a blue collar, working class, sleeves rolled up, hands dirty, man of the land type populist communist, that all it takes is a reactionary oyster farmer to ironically claim to be a communist online just because it’s edgy, and they fool themselves into thinking that maybe is something there.
Like sometimes you’re young, and dumb, and lonely, and you fall in love with someone, not with who they are, but who you wished they were. Like they did with Mamdani, and Fetterman.
American leftists are desperately searching for their Xi Jinping, and naively fooling themselves to fall in love with the wrong people instead of properly vetting for a real leftist. If they aren’t explicitly anti-facsist, anti-imperialist, anti-zionist, anti-capitalist, they aren’t a leftist. It’s not “purity testing”, it’s vetting for a partner who isn’t toxic and bad for you.
The question is… how many times do they have to play this game before they finally learn.
In everyone’s defense, including mine lol, he was pretty explicitly anti all those things, at least from the posts I had been seeing on reddit before. Maybe not anti-imperialist, but I thought he was? Did I just dream that part? Lol
Anyway, some of the most radical people I have seen have been from the military. As well as some of the most chud-y. But you’ve got some Aaron Bushnells from there, too.
for those who only post, making based posts is the highest form of praxis
Hey he did plenty of praxis for empire
site’s about a year away from unironically thinking american military service = praxis as long as the imperial spoils can give us healthcare with the way things have been lately
Social democracy is objectively the moderate wing of the Waffen-SS.
edit: Also why the fuck would you do the only shirtless political interview I’ve ever seen if you happen to have a giant Nazi skull tattooed on your chest? I always dismissed him as an op but who is the op even for?
Also, thread archived in case reddit nukes it: https://archive.is/G17aB . I can imagine the same PR demons who pushed him to this point are going to be going into overdrive today if he doesn’t immediately drop out.
Also also the youtube upload: https://archive.is/wip/AfDPa. I love how almost all of the comments are supportive of him and calling him the future of the democratic party. Completely agreed. Replace their donkey symbol with his tattoo and they’d at least be honest.
Btw Hasan supports this guy, can we stop pretending he’s a net good?
He just keeps falling for these frauds. I can sort of understand supporting someone like Mamdani, but this guy is just so far beyond the pale it’s ridiculous
He’s not “falling for” anybody, he pursues the preservation of the Democratic Party through social democratic reform, and sees imperialist/zionist social democrats as the way to save the party from its right wing
Social democracy is objectively the moderate wing of fascism.
He’s a liberal in a 3 million dollar house making money precisely from being a smoking hot liberal in a 3 million dollar house with a cute dog in frame spouting liberalism to people on the internet
Hasan is a himbo you can’t expect him to have smart opinions all the time
I can expect him to denounce nazis.
He’s talking about it right now and he’s not supporting this guy now
Why is a Nazi tat more disqualifying than being an unrepentant imperialist, is the next question he should answer.
Yeah, I’m pretty sure no tatoo ever slaughtered an Iraqi family
I know dramafarming BE has said Hasan supports him, but does he actually? I thought he was just providing coverage and reacting to videos of him, but hadn’t endorsed or anything remotely close
Yes he was cheering over some based commie Reddit posts that Platner was specifically disavowing at the time
No, not really. He’s said military service shouldn’t automatically cancel out someone, but he said that the multiple Blackwater tours is probably too much even for him. This was after the Reddit comments disclosure but before the tattoo stuff. Full disclosure I am a Hasan watcher. But a lot of Hexbears just take what they hear secondhand and then assume bad faith.
Hasan doesn’t really “support” him per se. But Hasan tends to see any sort of “progress” as a good thing, or at least indicative of a desire on the part of Americans to want better things for ourselves and each other.
he said that the multiple Blackwater tours is probably too much even for him.
Hasan doesn’t really “support” him per se.
then why did Hasan tell/let his youtube editors post this stream highlight?
indicative of a desire on the part of Americans to want better things for ourselves and each other.
waow, yankee imperialists “want better things” for themselves and their fellow yankees.
waow, yankee imperialists “want better things” for themselves and their fellow yankees.
Yes, I want my fellow Americans to have healthcare. If you can’t say you want the working class in your country to have a better life then you have no business engaging with people or trying to organize / agitate.
And I don’t get the problem with that video. He’s saying he doesn’t like some things about him and supports others things. Nothing like a wholesale “support” or endorsement.
Jfc despite being here since like day three it feels like Hexbear is getting too leftcom even for me.
Yes, I want my fellow Americans to have healthcare. If you can’t say you want the working class in your country to have a better life then you have no business engaging with people or trying to organize / agitate.
Yes, you can “want healthcare”, but you also should prioritise (or at least view as equally important) the welfare of people outside the USA. There’s a categorical difference between American/Global North leftists and the (past and present) revolutionaries in AES nations and/or the Global South, in that you guys live in the imperial core, and your hypothetical “free healthcare”/“better life” will inevitably come from super-exploitation of the Global South. So yes, just like you guys, Lenin/Mao/Castro/Ho Chi Minh/etc., “wanted the working class in their country to have a better life”. But unlike the USA, the economies of their countries weren’t structurally dependent on siphoning massive amounts of labour/capital/natural resources from other nations. That’s the key difference.
He’s saying he doesn’t like some things about him and supports others things. Nothing like a wholesale “support” or endorsement.
I really do think it’s very suspicious that he’s an unrepentant imperialist soldier/mercenary. But then, I heard that at a time while he was still happily working as government-employed brown people killer he once roleplayed as an edgy leftist on a semi-anonymous internet forum, and then later deleted his posts once he decided to run for public office. Hearing that “kinda made me feel like he might be a pretty good dudeTM!”
it feels like Hexbear is getting too leftcom even for me.
Platner is not Stalin, and I’m not Bordiga. Platner is not part of a workers’ party/labour organisation, let alone a vanguard party, and I’m not “wrecking” his revolutionary communist movement. Any reasonably informed materialist analysis should include consideration that Platner is openly a member of a bourgeois-controlled Democratic party, who’s promoting himself to the American audience as a “communist” of said bourgeois party (possibly because he thinks being as perceived as being further on the left differentiates/gives him an edge against his Democratic party competition?), whose various policy pledges on his own campaign webpage signal that he wants the American empire and military to be a more efficiently-run world-killing machine (see especially “Take on waste and corruption at the Pentagon; rebuild American shipbuilding”, and “No more pointless wars”).
lmao Jesus Christ
“Yeah I’m a leftist but I have an undeniably Nazi tat on my chest and have for almost 20 years” yeah ok sure buddy
Bernie Sanders weighs in:
'he went through some really difficult experiences seeing friends of his killed or whatever'
“There’s a young man who served his country in Afghanistan and Iraq, and he went through some really difficult experiences seeing friends of his killed or whatever, and in spite of all of that he had the courage to run”
“I personally think he is an excellent candidate. I’m going to support him, and I look forward to him becoming the next senator in the state of Maine”
When pressed on Platner’s Nazi tattoo, Sanders lashed out at the “corrupt campaign finance system” adding “We don’t have enough candidates in this country that will take on the powers that be and fight for the working class.”
(i don’t see non-twitter sources for this statement but those two accounts both seem like credible enough sources in this context)
Years of Whatever
Is it weird to be disappointed by this even though I already kinda knew he was a fraud
There’s always a chance someone could change their world view and political positions but that chance approaches zero when the guy has a nazi tattoo on his chest 19 years after first getting it
He claims he didn’t know until this came out that it had any Nazi connection which I could believe but he better be getting it removed or covered ASAP.
checking on this thread hours later
200+ commentsJesus Christ, we are defending some baby killer with a totenkopf tattoo?
If it wasn’t for those commie chapotraphouse-style reddit comments he was making five years ago, I’d consider this a case of malicious deception
But it’s an obscure Nazi skull and bones tattoo that a dumbass New England marine definitely wouldn’t clock as fascist symbolism unless were they were already part of a Nazi gang
In conclusion: this guy is a real fuckin dumbass lmao
The totemkopf is not obscure, the black sun is more obscure
the guy just doesn’t understand how empire works, couple of talks and he would be worse than settlerman. he already got disregard for life and fascist sympathies down. (and am i to believe that out of 100s of people who has seen him topless not one asked him about it?)
But it’s an obscure Nazi skull and bones tattoo
Since when is the totenkopf an obscure Nazi symbol lmao
