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Although that is true, you were never promised a fair world.
You need to use all your cunning and what little power you have to best negotiate the one you live in. Being able to vote democrats in gave you two parties to play against each other. The option of a lesser evil.
By not voting, and allowing the republicans to stack the supreme court, non-voters gave away their last bargaining chip.
It is not the parties that will burn.
Being able to vote democrats in gave you two parties to play against each other.
*Two parties to be played by. The existence of two parties allows the ruling class to launder their neoliberalism and/or fascism through a “legitimate” political process. If there was only one party people would actually take to the streets.
You need to use all your cunning and what little power you have to best negotiate the one you live in.
And maybe there’s a way to do that better than carrying water for the “lesser evil” that ends up losing to fascists anyway? The model you’re proposing has decisively failed anyway; might as well try something else.
Liberal lesser evil gave us incremental fascism
Refusing to vote for the imperfect candidate over the literal fascist gave us fascism.
imperfect candidate
I have to correct this:
imperfect candidategenocider who also outright ignored that you’re being robbed of your labor and you are no longer paid enough to buy food. And for added fun, the candidate doesn’t have a working brain anymore.Imperfect indeed. I wonder just how badly Democrats have to fail before you’d change your behavior.
Democrats are not imperfect candidates, they are the blue shade of fascism doing what fascists do to hold into power.
Don’t call them non voters. They made a choice and their vote is being counted by the analysts. They’re neutral voters.
At the Democrat strategy meetings where they run the numbers and decide on the party platform, these people are considered part of the “apolitical” demographic. The Democrats are stupid and will move the party platform rightwards to try and appeal to them. Principles don’t fix stupid.
To be fair, I live in a country where you can vote for a 3rd or 4th or 5th party and your vote still counts, because that’s how democracy should work.
In the US, I would probably be considered one of my ‘non-voters’.
In the US you would be considered a nuisance by the politicians of both established parties for feebly trying to disrupt their plan to usher in fascism under the guise of free choice. We’re not going to be able to work the sides against each other, because that’s like trying to call out from the audience of a play to try to influence how the story ends. Their actions are designed to influence us, not the other way around. The only way voting helps in the US is to buy time to coordinate the revolution while Democrats are still playing the role of the idiot.
We’re not going to be able to work the sides against each other, because that’s like trying to call out from the audience of a play to try to influence how the story ends
True, but you can influence the ending of a play by going backstage and putting on a costume. In America they call that a “primary” and it’s how Zohran Mamdani became the mayor.
True, but just because you put on a costume and go backstage that doesn’t mean you’ll get a lead role in the play, or even a role at all. I do vote in my primaries, and I’m very hopeful of Mamdani, especially with help from AOC and Bernie, but I can’t help but feel like I’m being tricked into pacificity; I picture a scenario were a few outspoken antagonists are allowed a place on the stage only to give the like-minded audience hope, but are never given a plot-relevant role.
Lesser evil doesn’t exist, that’s bs liberals tell themselves to distract from the fact they chose evil
Being unable to perceive a spectrum is a special kind of stupid. There are many degrees of bad, and many degrees of good.
There are!
The democrats are bad
Go vote in a primary
So they rig it for the 4th time in a row?
Gaza/Palestine would still be screwed, but would a Harris-Walz administration threaten Canada, attack Venezuela and capture Maduro, engage in piracy and extrajudicial killing in the Caribbean, attack Iran and cause the Hormuz Strait to close, put a tax (tariff) on virtually everything Americans buy? Would they encourage universities to arrest students for not being Israel removeds, would they make regulatory mergers contingent on fealty to them? Would they cancel land leases and try to cancel partially built offshore wind farms, and dump taxpayer money on companies to burn coal unnecessarily and to build oil and gas infrastructure? Would they continue the massive wealth transfer enabled by Republicans’ 2017 tax cuts or allow them to expire? Would immigration forces be used to kidnap random people on the street, and as a President Harris’ personal goon squad? Would they elect to blow up the relationship with virtually every allied country, such that they become hesitant when they actually need help?
This is just what I can think of off the top of my head. Not all evils are created equal. Trump, MAGA and Republicans are special breeds.
they encourage universities to arrest students for not being Israel removeds
They already were in California and NYC
Your vote has never made an impact on policy. Most nonvoters have realized this, their material conditions are unchanged regardless which shade of fascism is running government.
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She just supported over funding ice, funding a genocide than denying one was going on. Supported ‘the strongest, most lethal fighting force in the world.’
She was first term trump in blackface.
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And no material conditions didnt improve under biden. We saw the highest jump in homeless ever recorded. Auto repo s through the roof, credit card debt skyrocketed, 72% lived paycheck to paycheck.
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If she has the exact same policies, talking points and politics as the old white guys running the country, she is a black woman in blackface. She represents empire, she represents us imperialism and colonialism. It’s not racist.
She’s what Malcolm X, a black man, called a house negro
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how do you know their race or gender?
These Republican assistants start up earlier and earlier every year with their ‘Don’t vote’ shitick.
Notice how they never advocate for doing anything just making life worse for everyone.
They criticized my party and revealed their hypocrisy, reeeee they must be working for
Putin,Trump, republicans, reeeee.The “do something” stage passed 50 years ago but yous decided to swallow the capitalists exceptionalism propaganda and demonized serving the public as “communism” or “socialism” and then collectively shuddered your head up your own ass.
And NOW when you’re reaping what you sowed, all you have is “notice they don’t have a solution”?
Who do you think we are, your shepherds where we’re supposed to give you solutions for shit you made?
You fucking idiots never learn and it shows.
Fuck off, socialists and communists don’t vote for right wing POS like Democrats or Republicans and this is a communist space.
Democrats have made our life worse by lying about who they are. They don’t care about the working class, they are owned by the same bankers, CEOs, and lobbyists that own Republicans
socialists and communists don’t vote for right wing POS like Democrats or Republicans
As long as this is true, especially in primaries, then they will continue to ignore your demands. Not out of malice or even greed, but because a vote that categorically cannot be got must be ignored, since any effort spent trying to get it is wasted.
Then they can continue to lose.
“They both suck so I’ll just sit here, do nothing about it and complain while they go wild and unchecked. That’ll show 'em!”
Who says we’re doing nothing?
You think voting is the only form of working to change the world around you?
What people on the left are telling you is that voting will not fix this. You better try something different.
Referring to the guy saying he doesn’t vote. Voting isn’t the only way to affect change, and it’s certainly not the only thing I’m doing about everything happening in the USA right now, but not voting because you just don’t like either one is exactly how we got to the place we’re in right now in the first place
Who said they dont vote?
Go vote in a primary instead of being a doomer
I vote. I don’t vote for Republicrats
Why did the US only go with two political parties?
This is a genuine question here, I am sincerely curious.
We didn’t.
It’s just how our politics turned out. Originally we had multiple parties, but third parties basically give up and join another party to consolidate power. We have had many third parties that get substantial votes, but they are usually short-lived and never show up for more than a single election cycle or two.
Fuck both sides
