I know this is [email protected] but I really hate driving these modern trucks. The hood is too high, the windshield is too narrow, and the height is too high. You really can’t tell how close something. It’s really dangerous.
On top of all that the assholes that drives these things have the brightest lights in the world. That shouldn’t be allowed in the city.
Absolutely. Had to drive pickups at work and was constantly competing to get the old, beat up, smaller truck because it was just so much more practical to load and unload.
The target market here is so sensitive about their masculinity that they’ve actually sabotaged the practical use of these vehicles.
All my neighbors have trucks. I rarely see them use the truck bed. The truck bed is already shortened to make room for a back seat. On top that they all have crossover tool boxes. That take another 25% of room on the bed.
On top that they all have crossover tool boxes. That take another 25% of room on the bed.
People have families and don’t want to have multiple vehicles, and what would you prefer in this case? Someone’s tools loose in the bed just so YOU can see it’s used, or for someone to just take them? Most of these boxes also allow sheet good under them, you’re not limiting much. People don’t need to justify their vehicle to you, but you sure seem to want to judge people for them.
But of course this information doesn’t fit your bias.
I’d prefer if they didn’t drive at all—they make great cargo bikes nowadays that can fit multiple passengers, and of course mass transit has no passenger limit. But if that’s not an option, they make vehicles that are designed for carrying large numbers of passengers. They’re not pickups though.
Still, I want to point out that it’s relatively few families these days that have more than 2 kids. If you absolutely need a car then one compact car or hatchback works great. No need for these behemoths—except for ego.
Those trucks kill more people than any other vehicle and they pollute the environment. Drivers of these vehicles are more likely to have their high beams in city traffic and they are more likely to remove their air filter so black smoke comes out of their exhaust.
The portion of people that have these vehicles and fit the very narrow use case that it specifically satisfies is observably very small. People that don’t need a truck often can rent one. As mentioned by others, many of these trucks aren’t particularly good at what they were ostensibly built for. As my grandfather might have said, “those are just for sellin’”.
Judgement is fair, partly because these trucks only exist because of the scam legal definition of “light” trucks, partly due to the climate impact, but most immediately because of how dangerous they are to everyone else.
Man I have one of these as I tow a 16k lb trailer weekly and I fucking hate the thing. I wish I could get a Isuzu two door cab over with the same specs. Even though the Isuzu isn’t small it’s the smallest thing I could see getting where you can see shit. Also it cost just at as much as one of these support vehicles but without a bed. 😥
As another guy who drives pickups at work. I hate them as well. They have shit visibility, are difficult to park, handle like a tank, and the bed is difficult to get in and out of.
Canada and Mexico are two countries that have identical vehicles, but opposite trends.
It’s the drivers that are the different factor, but people don’t want to accept they are the problem, so they blame anything else they can. Like in this case the size of a vehicle, maybe it’s who you’re allowing behind the wheel and the road laws… nah… it’s the vehicles surely, but let’s not look at Canada or Mexico.
Increases or decreases in the frequency of pedestrian-driver fatalities is affected by lots of things, although I suggest that poor road design and traffic laws might have a positive feedback effect when combined with limited forward visibility (e.g. a truck with poor forward visibility isn’t a huge liability in Canadian road designs might be a larger liability in typical US road designs).
Unfortunately I don’t know if we collect the right accident statistics. Perhaps the more relevant question is: are pickup trucks over-represented in pedestrian fatalities as a result of vehicle collision compared to other vehicles, and has that representation grown as truck grill heights have grown? I found a doc on Canadian pedestrian fatalities, but it classified all passenger vehicles as a single class – and unfortunately that doesn’t tell us much since most 4-wheel pickups are classified as passenger vehicles.
Canada and Mexico have declining rates and the exact same vehicles, it’s not the vehicles, but people don’t want to take accountability for their actions, so they blame something.
I had to drive a truck recently, (needed to rent a vehicle, and they only had pickups left.) It was a chevrolet Colorado, which I understand to be one of the smaller trucks available in North America, and I was so happy to get rid of it at the end of the trip. It was fine on the highway, but in the city it was just incredibly awkward. Cumbersome handling, blind spots for days…I constantly felt like I was going to hit something.
I can’t even imagine how clueless you’d be about your immediate surroundings in a monstrosity like what’s pictured here.
![[image] Emotional support truck](https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/198c85a5-5a77-44b1-8a5f-2eeea22d90fa.jpeg){kind=link}
I know this is [email protected] but I really hate driving these modern trucks. The hood is too high, the windshield is too narrow, and the height is too high. You really can’t tell how close something. It’s really dangerous.
On top of all that the assholes that drives these things have the brightest lights in the world. That shouldn’t be allowed in the city.
Absolutely. Had to drive pickups at work and was constantly competing to get the old, beat up, smaller truck because it was just so much more practical to load and unload.
The target market here is so sensitive about their masculinity that they’ve actually sabotaged the practical use of these vehicles.
All my neighbors have trucks. I rarely see them use the truck bed. The truck bed is already shortened to make room for a back seat. On top that they all have crossover tool boxes. That take another 25% of room on the bed.
They basically perfected their target marketing.
People have families and don’t want to have multiple vehicles, and what would you prefer in this case? Someone’s tools loose in the bed just so YOU can see it’s used, or for someone to just take them? Most of these boxes also allow sheet good under them, you’re not limiting much. People don’t need to justify their vehicle to you, but you sure seem to want to judge people for them.
But of course this information doesn’t fit your bias.
I’d prefer if they didn’t drive at all—they make great cargo bikes nowadays that can fit multiple passengers, and of course mass transit has no passenger limit. But if that’s not an option, they make vehicles that are designed for carrying large numbers of passengers. They’re not pickups though.
Still, I want to point out that it’s relatively few families these days that have more than 2 kids. If you absolutely need a car then one compact car or hatchback works great. No need for these behemoths—except for ego.
Those trucks kill more people than any other vehicle and they pollute the environment. Drivers of these vehicles are more likely to have their high beams in city traffic and they are more likely to remove their air filter so black smoke comes out of their exhaust.
Horrible people with fragile egos.
The portion of people that have these vehicles and fit the very narrow use case that it specifically satisfies is observably very small. People that don’t need a truck often can rent one. As mentioned by others, many of these trucks aren’t particularly good at what they were ostensibly built for. As my grandfather might have said, “those are just for sellin’”.
Judgement is fair, partly because these trucks only exist because of the scam legal definition of “light” trucks, partly due to the climate impact, but most immediately because of how dangerous they are to everyone else.
Man I have one of these as I tow a 16k lb trailer weekly and I fucking hate the thing. I wish I could get a Isuzu two door cab over with the same specs. Even though the Isuzu isn’t small it’s the smallest thing I could see getting where you can see shit. Also it cost just at as much as one of these support vehicles but without a bed. 😥
As another guy who drives pickups at work. I hate them as well. They have shit visibility, are difficult to park, handle like a tank, and the bed is difficult to get in and out of.
They design them now as toys, not work vehicles.
I saw one of those small japanese trucks in real life. Hopefully with enough imports truck companies will make smaller models.
Fortnine has an excellent video about this issue.
I read this as Fortnite. I was really confused…
I never heard of this channel before. I’m going to subscribe.
Thank you for the video. Really informative and well edited.
The hood slants up?! Wtf…
Canada and Mexico are two countries that have identical vehicles, but opposite trends.
It’s the drivers that are the different factor, but people don’t want to accept they are the problem, so they blame anything else they can. Like in this case the size of a vehicle, maybe it’s who you’re allowing behind the wheel and the road laws… nah… it’s the vehicles surely, but let’s not look at Canada or Mexico.
FYI, Fortnine is based in Canada.
Increases or decreases in the frequency of pedestrian-driver fatalities is affected by lots of things, although I suggest that poor road design and traffic laws might have a positive feedback effect when combined with limited forward visibility (e.g. a truck with poor forward visibility isn’t a huge liability in Canadian road designs might be a larger liability in typical US road designs).
Unfortunately I don’t know if we collect the right accident statistics. Perhaps the more relevant question is: are pickup trucks over-represented in pedestrian fatalities as a result of vehicle collision compared to other vehicles, and has that representation grown as truck grill heights have grown? I found a doc on Canadian pedestrian fatalities, but it classified all passenger vehicles as a single class – and unfortunately that doesn’t tell us much since most 4-wheel pickups are classified as passenger vehicles.
Canada and Mexico have declining rates and the exact same vehicles, it’s not the vehicles, but people don’t want to take accountability for their actions, so they blame something.
Supporting data from The Economist:
https://www.economist.com/leaders/2024/09/05/what-to-do-about-americas-killer-cars
I had to drive a truck recently, (needed to rent a vehicle, and they only had pickups left.) It was a chevrolet Colorado, which I understand to be one of the smaller trucks available in North America, and I was so happy to get rid of it at the end of the trip. It was fine on the highway, but in the city it was just incredibly awkward. Cumbersome handling, blind spots for days…I constantly felt like I was going to hit something.
I can’t even imagine how clueless you’d be about your immediate surroundings in a monstrosity like what’s pictured here.