1. Which mods/admins were being Power Tripping Bastards
2. What sanction did they impose (e.g. community ban, instance ban, removed comment)?
Community Ban
3. Provide a screenshot of the relevant modlog entry (don’t de-obfuscate mod names).
4. Provide a screenshot and explanation of the cause of the sanction (e.g. the post/comment that was removed, or got you banned).
(I have not posted there)
Likewise the community has no rules listed, so I’m not sure how I’ve broken rule 4
Davel is probably going to try to claim me downvoting a post or comment of his that popped up on my feed or something as me breaking the entire instances rule 4 (no spam?) - which is why I need to be banned only from one community I don’t engage in.
Lemmy.ml admin Davel has been rage downvoting my posts a lot lately, even going so far as to downvote me telling real legitimate antisemites to ‘fuck off’.
Even CowBee had the decency to admit they were in the wrong and change their ragevote to an upvote.
Davel however seems to especially thinskinned even for the typical .ML’er and would rather double down and engage in poorly disguised retaliation bans for criticisms of a political ideology.
This thought terminating behaviour on display by one of the admins of such a reputable and outstanding instance as Lemmy.ml was not at all warranted and I hereby call on the leadership at lemmy.ML to unban me so that I may continue to not post in their community.
Getting banned from communities you don’t even post on, Lemmy really is a full featured Reddit replacement.
Aha, but does Reddit have a YPTB to call out the PTBs? I thought not! Checkmate!
I had to check which community I was on.
It used to before admins shut it down for “harassment”.
… Spez’s inbox?
perhaps lemmy.ml is, but no one is forced go on that instance
.ml is there and available on the fediverse in the same way that warm and somewhat leaky packs of discount meat are there and available on the shelf.
Problem is the tankies aren’t staying there. One of them has even managed to infiltrate the db0 leftymemes mod team… despite it’s claims of being “free of the “ML” influence of instances like lemmy.ml and lemmygrad.”
Wait which one is that? I might be missing something here.
The one with “lemmy.ml” behind their username. I just blocked that /c, and I’m not unblocking them now to check.
LMAO, good riddance
Just an FYI, ‘“ML”’ there refers to Dengists.
An excerpt from rule 3:
actual ML’s are welcome as long as they agree to the rules and don’t just copy paste/larp about stuff from a hundred years ago
No need to explain yourself - your actions have already spoken for you.
The way it looks is the way it is.
Fair enough, I’m not gonna make ya do that either.
leftymemes community, ive seen that community pop up quite alot.
Have you considered just going back to reddit?
Have you considered being nice to people? You’ll have friends that way.
Fucking cringe ass reddit speech. Like you learned to talk from Joss Weadon movies
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Being a terrible person is their entire personality.
Indistinguishable from maga. Weird.
Kindness is a liberal lie! I will hoard all my toys and means of production!
So, no friends?
…take that as a no then
So you can’t be nice to people, no wonder why you’re like this.
i’m still here buddy, love ya
leftymeme gives off a TANKIE vibe, how obvious can they be.
Except lacking notification that your content was removed. And a mod mail to ask questions about why. Together that makes lemmy.ml even more authoritarian than Reddit! (For an instance owner Lemmy offers freedom, but for an end-user not so much.)
Also it’s missing polls. And user and post flairs. And multi-communities. And… well, need I go on? (PieFed has all of these already btw.)
reddit has the crossbanning feature yea so much reddit. probably the easiest test to do is commenting joe roegans sub
YDI.
You’ve equated communists to Nazis and said “tankie fucks deserve to get their heads bashed in.” Extremely aggressive 100% of the time whenever you encounter a Marxist of any sort. With that context, it isn’t unreasonable to ban you when it would already be a clear misfit for you to participate in a Marxist community, be it via voting or otherwise. It wasn’t an instance ban, you’re still free to comment on the socialist comm, anarchist comm, etc as far as I can tell, just not on the communist comm.
As for the bit on antisemitism, the comment was removed and all you said was “fuck off,” so myself and presumably others made rash assumptions. This isn’t ill-founded though, you had posted Nazi apologia for Nazi collaborators released from prison that went on to lynch Jewish people and communists on the very same thread simply because they opposed the soviets. This is well and truly beyond the standard left-punching the post was for. I feel that this context is necessary because your post directly calls my reputation into question in the post body.
saying that you’re wrong and your grokepedia sources are bullshit is not nazi apologia.
people can disagree with the factual content of what you’re saying without being a nazi.
stupid tankie trolls.No they didn’t make Conservapedia, they made the
anti-wokeanti-liberal Tankiepedia! Clearly it’s different.
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It implies they could go outside, but they would rather be in the bubble in their room than actually go outside and be productive to their causes.
Not like any of them actually could fight for something they believe in. They read theory but don’t apply it.
PTB, it was probably because you keep triggering them in /c/leftymemes. Also lol at the hexbears in here calling YDI because their feelings are constantly being hurt.
EDIT: Omegalul at all the salt below.
There is no shame in having hurt feelings.
I gladly admit my feeling were hurt last year while me and my wife were receiving messages from her friend in the middle east, saying that one had no more parents, that one was now a window, that friends were dying.
And at the same time, I was reading the very same assholes whining 24/7 about tankies explaining everybody that the genocide was both unavoidable and a fatality anyway.
Funnily, the main mod of these anti-tankies is the guy that spread genocidal fake news during the mass killings.
Yes, that hurt my feelings.
Goat? Yeah goat is an asshole.
Weird how goat hates us yet he’s somehow part of us.
Almost like Hexbear is lying about us and has massive blinders on to “anyone I don’t like is the same person”
“Let me just bring up some completely unrelated things to provoke an emotional reaction”. Is it whataboutism all the way down with your peeps?
You can call everything whataboutism when straight up refusing to consider the context, but that’s just bad faith. How do you explain the whole harassing campaign is organized by genocide propagandists?
How is this post part of a harassment campaign?
[email protected] is one of the gentleman whining about tankies I’m referring to above
I repeat: How is this post part of a harassment campaign?
using slur to turn people off political radicalism should get you banned anywhere, especially when the slur is clearly used by genocide supporters to push for denialism.
also be nice i woke up at 6
Hexbear lives rent free in your head don’t we
Go and look how many hexbear threads you have about our admins and instance, then come back to me.
Anecdotally, I don’t think there’s been nearly as much conflict between Hexbear and dbzer0 as there used to be, and I’ve had good interactions with some of your mods, admins, and users. I’ve also, unfortunately, seen genuine Nazi apologia on dbzer0 protected as “criticizing the soviets,” and this is where the bulk of the remaining conflict stems from. I’ve also seen far more inflammatory posts from dbzer0 users trying to rile up Hexbear users than I have seen the inverse, and I regularly use Hexbear and only occasionally dip into dbzer0 comms.
Whenever someone like OP starts a crusade against “the tankies,” seemingly inevitably resorting to Nazi apologia, equating communists to Nazis, calling for mass violence against communists, etc, it’s entirely reasonable for the communists to be upset at that. There is endless leniance for these types of people here, in my experience, as long as they hide behind “criticizing the soviets.”
My thinking is that if certain ppl really hate hexbear or vice versa, then there’s a simple solution, which is to do everyone a favor and simply ban those particular individuals. Then both instances won’t have constant toxic interactions to deal with, which results in a better experience for everyone. So, I actually think this mod action was probably a YDI, simply because it’s probably the best thing for both parties, though calling it a win/win might be more accurate.
Anecdotally, I don’t think there’s been nearly as much conflict between Hexbear and dbzer0 as there used to be, and I’ve had good interactions with some of your mods, admins, and users.
Yeah agreed, in general we get along just fine nowadays when we stick to our own lanes. The hexbears’ who get along with us are largely already here, and vice versa. So this “drama” is mostly just white noise from folks who aren’t regular instance users anyway. It’s an impossible task to keep everyone happy.
I’ve also, unfortunately, seen genuine Nazi apologia on dbzer0 protected as “criticizing the soviets,” and this is where the bulk of the remaining conflict stems from.
This is unnecessary and unhelpful hyperbole imo. Our users are free to criticise the authoritarian tendencies of the former USSR, as well as of modern day Russia and China, and they are completely free to criticise the authoritarian tendencies of western nation states too. Personally, I think it’s more productive to criticise rising fascism in the west, because that is a bigger and more imminent threat, at least where I live. And that is, in fact, the vast majority of stuff I’ve commented on or posted about. But I can also totally understand how someone with different life experiences might be more focused on Russian authoritarianism, or Soviet history or whatever. It’s just not my jam.
Whenever someone like OP starts a crusade against “the tankies,” seemingly inevitably resorting to Nazi apologia, equating communists to Nazis, calling for mass violence against communists, etc, it’s entirely reasonable for the communists to be upset at that.
Yes, I agree with the general sentiment you are expressing here, if not the phrasing. McCarthyism is resurgent at the moment. A lot of establishment dems are seemingly more worried about the “red peril” than they are about Trump. I talked to one the other day who had never even heard of Joe McCarthy and assumed he was a democrat, lmao. And admittedly there are some anarchists who are also rabidly “anti-tankie”, sometimes to a fault. But hey, this is the internet, and people are gonna argue about pointless stuff all day long.
There is endless leniance for these types of people here, in my experience, as long as they hide behind “criticizing the soviets.”
True, we are lenient about it because many anarchists think the USSR was a brutal authoritarian state that had few redeeming qualities. And while I agree that generations of anti communist propaganda in the west have undoubtedly contributed to that sentiment, we can’t just wish it away. However, I’d say we have to moderate probably 10x more ppl for defending US/western authoritarianism nowadays than we do ppl for defending russian authoritarianism, so I think it’s a bit of a lopsided criticism anyway. I’d like to think we are a fairly lenient instance in general when it comes to moderation, except for a few niche communities.
It might just be a PoV thing. OP, for example, is at a pure “attack on sight” mode with me, but someone like yourself isn’t going to get that same treatment. I think an easy fix is to take comments that advocate mass violence against “the tankies” or otherwise more seriously. You don’t have to make this a left-unity space, it’s entirely in y’all’s right to maintain an anarchist space for anarchists, but from a pure interest in better discussion it’s better to give the few extremely vocal and anti-communist users here a bit of a slap on the wrist when it comes to that.
Again, I’m aware that anarchists usually are fairly negative towards the USSR or other AES examples as they are against all states. It’s when AES is equated to the Nazis that this enters Holocaust trivialization territory, results in users calling for mass violence, etc, and regardless of community rules you’re going to see federated communists come in and push back on that.
I agree that banning is a solution too, I explained why I think OP being banned from the communism comm is actually relatively benign. It’s the same reason I pretty much never go to anarchist-specific spaces, my interactions with dbzer0 are pretty much the occasional times I check in on Lefty Memes or if I see anything going on in this comm, and neither comm is explicitly against Marxist participation.
In short, I think 80% of the struggle comes from 20% of the users (or even 95% from 5%, or 99% and 1%). Slapping them on the wrist a bit more when they get carried away would drastically reduce struggle sessions.
I mean, you’ve defended straight up Nazi apologia just because it was punching left
Nuh-uh
Jesus, you’re worse than Jordenlund
I haven’t seen one in quite a while. There were a bunch around when we started federation because of course there was, there were about every community we federated with as communities started mixing and there was friction. Which makes sense, lots of communities had threads about Hexbear too for the same reason. Last thread about db0 as an instance specifically I can recall you were defending a trans hating Nazi sympathizer, not sure why you’d think a mostly trans instance wouldn’t talk about that. It doesn’t make db0 a special target, we talk about all the trans hating Nazis who hate our existence. We really aren’t that unreasonable when framed like that (ie: correctly). More communities should talk about their transphobic members, it’s good to have that stuff out in the open.
I also don’t recall any of our current admins or mods specifically talking about db0 outside the context of those threads. Possible I missed it but I’m usually pretty tuned in so.
In short, it’s funny how annoying we are to basically the entire fediverse when all we do to deserve the hate is “maybe it’s bad to hate trans people” and “maybe genocide is bad.”
You don’t seem like you’re very tuned in much if you’ve missed all the rest tbh. It’s been way more and none of it has been transphobic (except of course the usual most uncharitable interpretations of hexbears by which there’s nazi transphobes everywhere.)
can’t speak for infamous but generally, not being tuned in to the middle-school crap you wade thru by choice daily speaks to a maturity you have not yet been convinced to strive for.
Oh gawds, I really have every random salty hexbear jumping in to reply to me today. Don’t you have anything better to do than perpetuating middle-school crap?
its not that youve angered me today db0, what angers me about you —and people like you — is your wasted potential. to have the amount of energy you do (i’m jealous) only to waste all of it on ego-driven pursuits makes me wonder if the two human traits are linked somehow, so often do they overlap.
all i can do for solace is prick the soft skin of that over-aired balloon and laugh as you fly around
I guess I only tune into things when they’re notable
Indeed, the amount of maldling in hexbear comms about /0 is only exceeded by their pettiness
The amount of
on display here is astounding. I lurk on hexbear all the time and I almost never see people there even mentioning your silly instance. I do remember one exception when a hb mod was calling for defederation, pointing out how much water you carry for rightwingers and fash with some of your anti-communist screeds, but not only was that like over a year ago, that mod isn’t even around anymore, and I’ve seen no one on hexbear mention your instance once since then(it may happen from time to time but it is rare. However every time I see your name or unruffled pop up in my feed, it is always one of you whinging about those evil tankies on hexbear or the meanie tankes on .ml or how “authoritarian” the tankies on lemmygrad are.I’m not one to “laugh out loud” when I’m reading usually, but your comment above actually made me chuckle a little. It’s just so obviously backwards with reality, how can someone not be embarrassed to say that and so plainly demonstrate how much those ebil tankies live “rent free” in their head?
They hate us because they can’t shoot us like AuthComs do.
They’ll just claim that since they do it monthly it doesn’t count.
Projection like a movie theater.
You’re referring to yourselves, clearly
Jesus Christ, you’re really going to look at their behavior and praise it for, essential, “triggering the libs”? You are basically just a right wing chud so long as it’s attacking communists
They’re not triggering the libs. They’re triggering tankies with lib memes. That’s supposedly ok.
I wonder if this thread will be what gets them to do anything about the one cheering for drama but claims to hate it
Weird how they came in here suddenly.
B-but it was on all of our front pages! Ignore when we post it, link it, screenshot everyone, on our Slop community! Then talk about how much we hate them but don’t do anything to stop getting angry about it on the same community!
Edit: it keeps happening, wow I’m so shocked.
Edit 2: on the front page of Slop, users from Hexbear commented and then went to the post being discussed https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/59235577?scrollToComments=true
“But we don’t do that! Lemme just prove we do!”
Didn’t come here from slop or any other comm, it’s genuinely the top for me. Default settings, which are sorted by All & Active.
Considering we’re not federated with .world, this is probably the most active thread on our federated spaces.
Edit: also there’s quite a few .zip bots which would have artificially boosted the activity
You couldn’t have come here from slop because this thread isn’t on slop: they’re just lying through their teeth
oh yeah the .zip bot, I was surprised it somehow got through
The zip bots are very odd. I’ve reported them for spam.
And again, it was not the top when I checked. I concede things may have changed since then, but when I checked while work was slow it wasn’t.
I think the discrepancy comes from whether or not you’re logged in to an existing Hexbear account.
I got a screenshot on PC in an incognito window for just visiting Hexbear as a guest (default: Local and Active) vs my default as a user (All and Active, since federation at the very least)
Ignore the Nvidia pop up, I launched a game in the middle of testing this
It’s the “local” vs “all” sorting.
I personally used the “all” setting when I checked, but it’s important to note.
That’s probably a factor, I don’t have an account there.
Ignore the Nvidia pop up, I launched a game in the middle of testing this
How dare you play video games and have fun!
This hasn’t been posted to slop, you dishonest troll. As ever, you’re just mad that communists are allowed to use the website built by communists
Yeah that acct is phony AF. A lib insult to the memory of EVD.
I only picked this name because I thought it was funny.
Incorrect.
Lol, anyone can go to slop and see that you’re lying. You’re really going to double down?
Anyone can see Hexbear is attacking us, are you really gonna double down?
Hello I got here from the front page and as you can see (if you’re timely):
https://hexbear.net/?dataType=Post&listingType=All&sort=Active
This post is currently at 2nd place of our front page, discounting the pinned megathreads.
Now I have provided proof of our position, will you provide proof of yours?
Of course they won’t prove their position; their irrational boiling hated is all the proof they need
You sure are mad people don’t like your actions being documented.
You’re not documenting shit though, you’re literally lying through your teeth. So you mean is: “you sure are mad that I’m making up bullshit about you!”
I just looked via my page and it’s on page 2. I genuinely wouldn’t know why Lemmy would rank it differently, but I had to scroll and then tap on Next page.
And whenever I muster the will to go back to Slop I’ll see it, with the dozens of other posts of people complaining about db0 and then doing nothing about it.
Still doesn’t explain why users feel the need to come in every time something like this happens on db0.
There is a lot of misinformation on lemmy about hexbear so we like set the record straight when people talk shit like you just did. This post is also just weird, it’s clear that OP doesn’t care about the community they were banned in. Lots of lemmy communities ban people who haven’t posted in that com for bigotry, having a bad upvote/downvote ratio or clearly not aligning with the community’s values. I don’t think that’s bad practice because I’d rather see an anticommunist be banned from a communist community from the moment they out themselves as an anticommunist regardless of the community they post in, rather than waiting before they try to antagonise the communist community.
Also I don’t see this post anywhere in slop, slop consists of mostly twitter screenshots so I’m not sure why you would lie about that.
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And whenever I muster the will to go back to Slop I’ll see it
It’s literally not there, you lying scumbag. But I’ve seen enough of your posts to know that you’re perfectly happy to spout deliberate falsehoods, so long as you can punch left
[citation needed]
You’re literally the one making the claim, asshole, where’s your citation? Not that it matters, anyone can go to slop and see for a fact that you are lying
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Hey look, it’s the kind of comment I was talking about. but it was totally on my front page and I had to go in there! I’ve never cared until now!
Edit: totally normal behavior from Hexbear to upvoted after the comment was removed, right?
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If Hexbear hates being called out maybe that’s on them? Weird how no one from Hexbear jumped on the OP’s defense, or any other posts here lately.
Keep being the guy I was mocking, you aren’t digging your grave more while giving more proof of the thing I was mocking.
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Weird how .world says we’re tankies with Hexbear and Lemmygrad but somehow also Nazis according to Hexbear. Two drastically different ideologies.
I’m sure it’s not because anarchists question laws being made to stop people who ask too many questions the state doesn’t like.
Why did you link to a different post?
It was an example, I probably could have cleared this up
It’s just weird saying that’s the proof while saying they’re the ones causing drama.
And it’s still there while admitting it’s incorrect
hexbears
literally just Alaskaball when you posted this comment, I’m commenting because of semantics lol
It was an inevitable self-fulfilling prophecy, as clearly obvious now :D
i mean as of writing this comment its frontpage of hexbear all sort soo there’s gonna be a looot more
I know. They just can’t keep themselves away from a good pile-on because in their mind bullying works.
“Heh, engaging with items at the top of your feed? Typical toxic Hexbear behavior.”
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Nooooo stop bullying smol bean db0, two people from the same instance saying true things is authoritarian, actually.
Yeah, how dare they engage with posts that show up on their feed, those bullies. They should let us slander them in our bullying com in peace!.
You really are a wretched hypocrite, willing to abandon all your claimed principles so long as you can punch left
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Oh look, it’s the fucking idiots who said Soviets deserved to die because they didn’t surrender to the Nazis.
Idk whose brain it is you have in a box, but you need to start using it for once.
Holy shit, we found the least witty loser on earth
You sound really mad, maybe you shouldn’t be in places you don’t like for your blood pressure.
This coming from the guy who’s so angry they’re posting frothing screeds
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Leftymemes banned me for calling the azov brigade nazis 🤣
Ban reason: “The Russian Armed Forces are liberating Ukrainian Nazi Azov cities”. I don’t think the mod took issue with the “Nazi” part of your comment. Get fucked, you deserved the ban.
And who had invaded and occupied mariupol? Which was the only city I was talking about at the time.
Edit: their comment
🤨
You really gonna go with some Россия 1/Первый Канал/RT bullshit like that? Yeet for IDK, a year?
Taking sides in an inter-imperialist conflict like that, on the side of the aggressor even, but then also spewing BS like that. Bye bye 👋
pretty obviously shows that it’s the “nazi” part they took issue with.
Cry me a revisionist river LMAO
Which part is the revisionism? Did you not say that “nazis in ukraine” are russian propaganda? Or do you believe that mariupol was not occupied by the azov brigade? Or that the azov brigade are not nazis?
Bro why are u vehemently defending the people who abondoned socialism? Putin and Yeltsin dont give a single fuck about it and destroyed USSR, yet I always see u guys defending Russia.
Because geopolitics is a bit more complicated than “our team vs theirs”. The original video that got me a ban that I was talking about when I got that ban gives a good insight into why russia is the lesser evil compared to the current ukrainian regime:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNZwLA869ScIm not talking about ours vs theirs tho. Im talking about the guy who literally ended USSR and his successor Putin. He has the all wealth and power of Russia. He owns fuck tons of shit and rich as fuck. Clearly, he and current Russia dont give a shit about socialism thus dont deserve our critical support.
I don’t understand, if we are not supposed to be critically supportive of governments or people we have criticisms of, then who?
I mean yeah they destroyed AES not just in Russia but beyond, but in the case of the SMO they’re fighting literal ss-tattood nazis terrorising the civilian russian population of east Ukraine. So in that conflict I am going to side with the brigade that doesn’t have a nazi rune on it’s insignia.
B-but they got banned for being weird! That’s against left unity!!!
I don’t see any lefty memes bans for you at all.
Why wouldn’t he lie?
Edit: so another account got reasonably banned, deserved.
Ah, different account. I see now
But you missed the pronoun.
I’ll correct that
Not on your mod log.
Thanks. I don’t mean to rock the boat so often in your house, it’s just where all the good comms are. Let me know if it’s ever too much and I’ll stop.
I normally agree with most of your sentiments, but not this one. if anything it seems the most sodium is coming from you and a couple other commenters in this thread. I hope you know I mean no disrespect.
I’m not one to defend hexbears. in fact most of the time I’m wary of anyone with that instance username, but in this case I think you’re being a bit unfair.
I have OP labeled as a troublemaker as I’ve seen him behaving poorly in a few places. swearing at people and calling them tankies just for disagreeing with him, etc.
I don’t think this is a left/right/hexbear/instance war- thing. it may just plainly be a “not nice” thing.
What, what did I do?
nothing, I just don’t think many of the hex commenters in this thread are being all that salty (which nobody finds more surprising than myself). most seem to have found the thread through normal channels.
maybe there’s stuff going on behind the scenes that I am not aware of, and I’m wrong. its entirely possible.
but just from an outsider perspective, it seems most are behaving fairly decently.
/c/leftymemes
Lib memes. Garbage comm. Banned me for persistent thought crime. Good riddance.
It totally isn’t because you’re a serial ragebaiter or anything, or your foul attitude. No, it’s totally because of thought crimes. LMAO
No no, they’re the wrong ones for banning people who said things that break rules.
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The downside to me explicitly choosing an instance that defeds hex and grad is that I don’t get to see their impotent rage.
It’s not worth it, but you can view this page from db0.
do they not realize, they are more like conservatives than they like to admit.
YDI - Why do you care if you’re banned in a comm you never post in? The only reason to care is because you want to start drama.
YDI, every interaction I’ve had with you has been toxic, can’t really blame anyone who bans you
Have you considered that might be more in you than them.
considering their immediate reaction to me complaining about their misogynistic post title was to perm ban me for ‘homophobia’ I’m pretty comfortable saying that they’re the thin skinned one
Yeah? You really want to try that line?
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External users downvoting is considered “vote spamming”. You can check my moderation history, they used that justification for me. I just downvote low-value content as I see it.
That’s one of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard. Are you serious? They consider downvotes originating from outside the instance, spam?
Apparently.
They’ll find any excuse to ban you if you say something the admins don’t like.
Can I please get your autograph?
Yeah I assumed it was that, but it was so poorly worded and completely unwarranted by anything as I’ve never posted so cannot spam or ‘ads’.
Spamming dissent, their most unforgivable sin.
Spamming dissent by saying nothing, a new low for Devel.
YDI - you clearly don’t like lemmy.ml so why are you upset they are helping to curate your feed. Some divisionsbyzero mods ban people from their communities when it isn’t a right fit for them, even if the user never posted/commented in the moderator’s community.
It’s one thing when some random unknown person does it with their own personal communities. It’s a bit different when it’s an instance administrator. I think you will at least acknowledge that.
They won’t acknowledge shit.
Edit: using gender neutral terms when you don’t know the person’s gender isn’t misgendering, it’s common sense and respectful. Going back to my original words. If she has a problem with it, she can get on her real account.
Hi Hexbear! You’re so mad at me documenting the actions of users and alt accounts. I’m sure that’s not related to the fact I pinged the account at all.
Is it really “kicking someone off” when she herself admitted that she doesn’t use this site anymore? Sorry I called out someone’s bad faith actions. I’ll make sure to do it next time on a new alt, like y’all do.
I didn’t realize this when I replied yesterday as I was so taken aback by your negativity but you just intentionally misgendered me.
It was not my intention at all and I have corrected it. I try to use they/them when I don’t know pronouns, and I didn’t see yours. I don’t focus on usernames that much. I apologize.
Thank you I appreciate that, I don’t really understand why we ended up at this place just because I disagreed with you?
I left lemmy months ago due to a problem with misogyny across the threadiverse, someone else made a great post about it. https://sopuli.xyz/post/28506662
Honestly after what happened here where I was jumped on for … participating in a post but not agreeing with the men in the post ??? I was going to leave again but it looks like I choose a good instance
Who are you and why are you talking to me like I hurt you?
“I will assume good faith and intelligence until proven otherwise.” What have I done to prove otherwise?
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Badjacketing (which includes Sockjacketing) is against instance rules.
Lmao now Hexbear is mad us again. Oh well. I guess I called them out and now they’re mad.
Rent free in their heads instead of dealing with fascists that hurt them daily. Left unity, am I right?
Fair
Maybe that would matter if Deceptichum was banned from the entire instance, he is only banned from Communism and has a pretty lengthy modlog https://lemmy.ml/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=8673545
Is… is there a rule anywhere that says thats how the comm operates?
Or are we just all supposed to assume potentially any comm is run by the invisible and artibrary whims and unstated rulesets of mods?
They’re not… I don’t think they are upset they cannot participate in a comm they did not participate in. That’s not the point.
The point is the the princple, or lack thereof.
If you want to have an instance wide rule that actually codifies, in some way, the ability of admins/powermods to ban anyone, from anywhere, for any reason… then that would be shitty, but at least openly and transparently shitty.
Then at least Dictatorship of the Daveletariat would at least be, you know, explicitly stated policy?
… does such a public facing rule or ruleset already exist, and I just missed it?
I was just pointing out that there are multiple communities on the threadiverse that do the same thing, including some hosted on this very instance! A community moderator’s job is to grow a community and if a person isn’t a right fit for the community why would a moderator want to keep them around, especially if they are disruptive to the community
Ok, so they deserve being banned for … breaking an undefined rule.
That’s your position?
EDIT: the whole problem here is this person got banned from a comm they’d never been to… for spamming.
That doesn’t make sense.
You saying them being banned from a comm they’d never been to… for disrupting that comm… also does not make any sense.
The other element of this problem is powermods (by which I mean people who mod multiple comms) and admins banning people from one place for infractions committed in another, and then potentially daisy chaining through private convos between mods… when said banned person isn’t really clearly violating stated rules that have that stated penalty outcome.
That is exactly the kind of hivemind/culty bullshit that is what people hate about reddit, that there’s basically just a cool kids club that doesn’t actually follow any rules with any consistency, and just acts as a kind of Mean Girls squad, exiling and censoring people … basically for annoying them or making fools of them.
Its middle school mentality. Vibes based moderation. Censorship by popularity contest, where only the cool kids get to vote on that.
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More bad faith bullshit, I downvoted you one time in this post “She won’t acknowledge shit.” You two are so dogmatic about tankies you are attacking me because I disagree with your boys club
oh that was me downvoting you. rather than address anything she said you two were sneering at her for agreeing with me and saying she’s on an alt account.
absolutely toxic behavior from you specifically 90% of the time, tbh I tend to toss you one when I see you on general principle.
That is exactly the kind of hivemind/culty bullshit that is what people hate about reddit, that there’s basically just a cool kids club that doesn’t actually follow any rules with any consistency, and just acts as a kind of Mean Girls squad, exiling and censoring people … basically for annoying them or making fools of them.
Its middle school mentality. Vibes based moderation. Censorship by popularity contest, where only the cool kids get to vote on that.
You could easily be referring to all the people raging about ‘the tankie triad’ with this.
The vast majority of the time I look at someone complaining about getting censored on .ml they were either being bigoted or insulting people.
As for vibes based moderation and censoring people for actions in other places, I got banned from quokk.au by their admin for ‘brigading’ because I cross-linked to a db0 thread complaining about the OPs mod actions. ‘brigading’ is nowhere in the site rules for quokk.au as far as I’m aware. I am also the only person to have ever been banned by quokk.au in this way so far.
I was banned for ‘homophobia’ by OP because I complained about his post having a misogynistic title.
You are literally the one defending a powermod who bans people in retaliation, because they got banned from one comm that they clearly despise for being a toxic asshole.
My position is that if you don’t like a community then you should not go there to be disruptive. When someone continues to disrupt a community that they dislike it is within the moderators duties to stop that. I support the moderators on divisionbyzero who use that to curate positive communities, just the other day another moderator made a now locked post saying they do the exact same thing complained about by the OP. I also have a reply from Diva saying that the OP has done this same action so I stand by my PTB statement.
Ok so you’re missing the entire basis point of why this is absurd.
They got banned from a comm they’d never been to, never posted in… because they were apparently ‘spamming’.
You… can’t have spammed a community that you’ve never made a post or comment in.
… Also, you say you stand by your PTB statement?
Your original statement, the inciting thing for this whole comment chain… is you issuing a YDI verdict.
Not a PTB verdict.
Those two are basically total opposites.
… Are you confused?
Like, just generally?
Ok so you’re missing the entire basis point of why this is absurd.
a basis point is a finance unit for 1/100th of a percent, you could just drop the ‘basis’ and your sentence would make sense.
really funny that you started your whole diatribe about her being confused by botching your own word usage.
I don’t really care about butchering the english language, so don’t come at me. usually I treat it with the respect it deserves, which is none. the irony, however, was excellent
I got banned from 27 communities on quokk.au for something which is not in their rules, because they were simply justifying retaliation against me for calling the OP out.
I don’t think this is a principled complaint that you have.
Stop acting like you’re innocent.
They banned you for brigading after you posted links on hexbear directing users to a post you had made about OP.
I recently got community banned by OP for ‘homophobia’, because I pointed out their misogynistic post title, I then got site banned w/ remove account from the OP’s admin, because they didn’t like that I cross posted the link to my own thread on db0
OP is making a big stink over shit he does himself, all of these rules are selectively enforced. people just rend their garments when .ml does it
lemmy.ml is operated by emotionally stunted clowns.
Be fair to clowns, they contribute meaningful social commentary.
that also would never live in places like china or russia but they love to fantasize about those 2 countries all the time.
PTB.
I am so sorry you’ve had to go through this awful experience. It is entirely unsurprising for that mod in particular. Extremely defensive 100% of the time whenever they encounter an Anarchist.
Thank you for your continued support, I am considering legal action to recover the monetary damages for how distressed I am by this unprovoked rageban.
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Clear PTB from .ml here. Jesus Christ.
As if there’s anything ml mods could do that you wouldn’t condemn just on principle
We literally have before.
As if there’s anything db0 does that you wouldn’t condemn on principle.
YDI/YDM
For what? They didn’t post.
Edit: still waiting from Alaska.
A complete lack of any post wasn’t a barrier for you launching into a tirade about hexbear
Oh no! Not the consequences of actions and 10 comments in 8 hours! The horrors!
Lemme know when Hexbear stops doing the thing that no one likes but them and claim innocence .
You mean the thing you knowingly lied about them doing? The thing that any one can go there and verify that you’re lying about?
Yeah hexbear totally doesn’t make most of the comments here. Good job 👍
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Amazing display of left unity today by Hexbear.
We can’t call out bad faith actions and active spamming to tire people out, but they will gladly jump down your throat.
They can ban people for asking too many questions but if we ban them we aren’t leftists.
You call them out it’s a tirade and a rant. You give them links to show they have a bias, you’re the bad guy.
Rules for thee not for me is what Stalin wanted after all, it’s just praxis for them. Can’t wait to see how many are angry at us for not obeying their rules on another instance.
Blah blah “but muh all” blah blah “post hog” blah blah “you just hate us for causing a mess and cleaning it up”. Hope you guys have jobs and interact with real humans and stop LARPing as the revolutionaries Stalin would have shot when they stopped being useful.
Amazing how to some we’re the Tankies when we didn’t say Stalin wasnt Christ reborn and we get spammed with it. I come back from work and I have more messages than when I upset someone with a bot farm.
Left unity my ass. We can’t criticize you but you’ll kill Makhno and say you did us a favor. Can’t wait until Hexbear circlejerks about this and swear this time for real they’ll defed from us.
Mate, you were literally making up actual straight up lies about hexbear: objectively, verifiably false accusations, and now you’re throwing a fucking tantrum that people called you out
“How dare you find people spamming you annoying!” Get bent.
hoo hoo hooo! you’ve presented nothing but proof they made the right decision. get popped corncob
That rule 4 probably refers to the instance wide rule 4, which seems to be “No Ads / Spamming.”
Which is still weird because I’ve never made no posts or ads in the community.
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I tapped on the link and joined the Telegram group. I am now winning indeed.
what was in it anyway I didn’t go into the link
some sport winning advice bullshit
