• nikita@sh.itjust.works
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    7 months ago

    Thats why I don’t do that shit to people.

    Who am I to question someone’s spirituality if it makes them happpy and they practice in a healthy way and it doesn’t negatively affect the people around them?

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      7 months ago

      Oops, now abortion is illegal and gay people can’t marry!

      Strong but unfounded beliefs have consequences…

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            7 months ago

            Also it can affect people in ways they aren’t even aware themselves.

            Fortune telling for example.

            My friends mum sold her house because the fortune teller told her some vague nonsense she interpreted to mean the end of the world was approaching.

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        7 months ago

        In my experience, people like that will be terrible with or without religion.

        The difference of “external man in the sky” vs “internal concept of my own rightness” for how they feel ok about their own actions doesn’t make a difference when they’re still a bigoted asshat at their core.

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      7 months ago

      Exactly. Atheists don’t like missionaries, so why should we become those ourselves?

      As long as nobody tries to impose their beliefs on me, I don’t care about their religion.

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    7 months ago

    I’m an athiest, and I generally believe that religion can be easily used to be shitty towards others and push them to being the worst type of people in life (more generally this happens with all ideologies). But for many religious people they aren’t too different compared to an athiest. They might go to church only on the holidays, or maybe they go weekly. They probably have many religious values. But at the end of the day they often make similar decisions for different reasons.

    But I genuinely believe that trying to convince people that god isn’t real is super shitty and counter-productive. Show some compassion you fucking deodorant-free 🤓-brained reddit moderator. Take a shower.

    I occasionally hear people say something like “We should be making people atheists. Religion is a scourge that uses ideology to harm others.” I can’t help to laugh when I hear this, because someone who takes this seriously (perhaps the person in the comic) is doing the literal thing they are decrying.

    So what if someone is a christian because it comforts them? I don’t care if you think it lacks logic when your alternative lacks compassion.

    Instead of opposing religion unilaterally, oppose the harmful ideas laundered by religion. Shame the politicians and the charlatans. Don’t shame mary-sue who goes to church weekly for being the a Christian, even though the shitbags at NIFB hate church are also Christians.

    It’s certainly possible for people to be good to each other due to their religious beliefs. The local pro-palestine protests near me are primarilly organized by christians, and they are often led by a local group of leftist christian pacifists. They organize anti-war protests, support palestinian freedom, and do many smaller actions to alleviate suffering such as volunteering at the local food bank or other similar orgs. Compared to other groups that organize near me, I vastly prefer them over my local PSL chapter, or almost every ML group I’ve ever come across. Unlike many atheists I’ve worked with, that christian group will happily work with a local mosque, or synagogue when it doesn’t help them materially. This is because they don’t oppose people based on simple reasons like religion, but instead have deep solidarity with everyone else suffering through life on this terrible world.

    Instead of opposing religion because you think it’s cringe how about you show solidarity and compassion for your fellow human beings.