• MindTraveller@lemmy.ca
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    2 months ago

    You even got people on the left saying “I won’t vote for the less bad politician unless he makes me excited to vote”. When did everyone get so selfish?

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      2 months ago

      Got people in the center being like “we love bad politicians because they do everything we want. Fuck you, you’re voting like we tell you” and then they expect that shit to work.

      Look at what happened when the party listened and gave us a candidate who could fog a mirror and who might not be as happy with genocide as centrists want.

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      One doesn’t need to be a Leftie to be wary of voting for a guy supporting with weapons ethno-Fascists commiting mass murder, including bombing playgrounds and sniping children playing in their own homes, even if the other guy is also a Fascist.

      It’s not by chance that merelly replacing Biden it Kamala quickly started to bring back such voter.

      The only way to think that being in the least of ways humane and not agreeing with mass murder of children is a “leftwing” thing is if you live in a country with an Overtoon Window shifted so far to the right that almost all of the political spectrum is either Fascism or pro-Oligarchy.

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        I too am a very left leftist and that’s why this election I will check notes do exactly what the far right rightists want by voting for a third party. There will be no genocide after we elect Jill Stein, which is realistic because if she had triple the popular votes last time she could have beat libertarian Gary Johnson. There is no possible downside because there will certainly be no genocide with the far right rightists running on a platform of bigotry while saying they will have dictatorship, that Israel should nuke Gaza, that the world should let Russia run roughshod over Ukraine.

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            2 months ago

            I’m agreeing with you, friend. Mathematically only one of two candidates has any chance whatsoever. That’s why I, a very far left leftist, will do exactly what is desired by the further right of the two parties. That will achieve leftism because of reasons.

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        2 months ago

        You’re right. The people who put their principles above Palestinian lives aren’t left wing. They’re centrists. An actual leftist puts helping others first. Voting Democrat reduces the harm that others suffer. Abstaining does nothing to help anyone. But there are some people who will choose to let brown people in the middle east die, when they could have easily prevented it, if it means they get to have clean hands and avoid some kind of misplaced guilt. They think for some reason that a vote equals a bomb, and that choosing to be a centrist means opting out of responsibility for their government’s actions. They think they can live all alone in their white middle class suburban bubble. That their inaction means they can’t have any of the blame laid at their feet. They pay taxes to the US government, which uses the taxes to buy bombs to kill Palestinians, and these centrists think that choosing not to take responsibility for how their tax dollars are spent makes them guiltless. And that taking on a guilty conscience by accepting responsibility, is a bigger price to pay than genocide and war.