• 2ugly2live@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    I had a coworker whose kids got sick back to back and then his wife, and then he got ill too. By March, he had no PTO and had to cancel his vacation that summer. He was worn the fuck out come summer. I think he was able to flex to work “four tens” here and there, but it sucks that “sick” and “vacation” are not only the same bucket, but could get you punished.

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      4 months ago

      As a European I can’t grasp this concept. As if sickness is something somebody chooses by will.

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        Where I work, I get 5 days worth of PTO which can be used for either sick time or vacation time. It takes (8) 40 hour weeks to generate 1 new PTO day. We’re not allowed to take unpaid time off, you’re required to use your PTO. If you do not have any PTO left, you go up to 40 hours negative. You are then required to work 40 weeks to break out of the negative. If you decide to quit or are fired while in the negative, that hourly difference is deducted from your last paycheck.

        It didn’t used to be this way. The family owned company I work for was bought out by a 500 million dollar corporation.

        Shits fucked yo.

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          There’s no way them deducting pay out of your last paycheck is legal in any way. How hasn’t soneone sued the hell out of them?

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        This is the American mindset via a comment my previous boss made: “We’ve closed the shop due to heavy snow conditions, it’s not my fault it snowed so you need to use your own vacation time if you want to get paid.”

        Same reasoning for illness: “it’s not my fault you got sick so why should I lose anything?” (they see loss of productivity as a punishment they don’t deserve)

        (Sorry if you end up with 3 of these, my phone or Lemmy is being dumb trying to send this…)