Wait until veterans learn that they want to take away their healthcare and disability pay in order to give tax cuts to the rich. This is not hyperbole, that’s literally one of the ways they intend to save money. Also making it so you can get your pension or VA disability, but not both.
Bud, we already vote blue. Yeah there’s some dumbasses out there voting for Trump but he did something no Democrat has been able to do in the modern era. He got the military to vote blue in 2020.
The Democrats have had trouble getting our VA stuff figured out but we’re well aware the Republicans want us to actually just die in an alley somewhere.
the military isn’t pissed off at trump and the comment you’re responding to is intentionally misleading; less that 1% of people from the military force supported biden in majority numbers.
If there were anything approaching a general strike they would panic. They just don’t give a shit when it’s several thousand people on a weekend in NYC with their striking permits. Why would they? That’s a small parade. St. Patrick’s Day is a larger disruption for the city.
No, not really. One of the great america propagandizing myths is that protests are effective. They’re not, they can easily be ignored. What does work is organized strikes and planned disruptions of key targets with protests.
In certain forms, or in conjunction with other forms of activism it can still work. For example tree sit ins to prevent logging.
Occupy wall street, BLM, the protests when Row v Wade were overturned all largely accomplished nothing on their own.
Dude, the entire reason Ukraine isn’t a Russian puppet anymore is they got enough people together to stop it.
In Vietnam the great anti war demonstrations didn’t stop the war on their own but they grew into such a movement that the politicians were forced to stop. It was such a thing that the evil guy torpedoed peace negotiations just so he could be the one to have peace negotiations.
Large enough groups of people absolutely have an effect, directly or indirectly depending on the exact situation. BLM didn’t solve police brutality but it forced the adoption of body cameras and brought about the end of qualified immunity in at least one state. It made it okay for prosecutors to charge cops criminally, so they don’t get voted out for it in the next AG election. The Roe v Wade demonstrations got abortion on the ballot in several states, and it won on 4 out of 6. 5 states are going to have ballot referendums in November with possibly 5 more.
If you’re looking for the crowd to solve the issue that day then you don’t understand how building a political movement works.
I have grown up pretty much my entire life hearing and thinking that protests are the way to bring about change, but everyone conveniently leaves out the fact that you have to build that political movement too.
People want to show up for a protest and be done, many people don’t want to do the work to be an activist and work for change, and honestly I don’t blame them.
Hell I know people who went to BLM protests, Palestine protests and pro choice protests… But don’t vote, so sorry if I seem overly critical of protesting. I’m just sick of prevalent idea that it’s all you need to do.
I would just be careful of rolling that over into protests are useless or people who just protest are useless. Everyone is playing a part. Although they really should be voting too.
I should fuckin well hope so
Wait until veterans learn that they want to take away their healthcare and disability pay in order to give tax cuts to the rich. This is not hyperbole, that’s literally one of the ways they intend to save money. Also making it so you can get your pension or VA disability, but not both.
A lot of red voting trade workers need to understand how anti-union and anti-workers rights it is. And wave goodbye to overtime.
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Oh we know. That shit went through the grapevine faster than a bad southern idiom.
I’m a Red Blooded Christ Loving Veteran and I’m TOTALLY OK WITH THAT as long as TRANS KIDS DIE TOO! #SaveTheChildren!
i bet they’ll still vote republican
UPDATE: watch the apologists try to say that it’s not that bad below. lol
Bud, we already vote blue. Yeah there’s some dumbasses out there voting for Trump but he did something no Democrat has been able to do in the modern era. He got the military to vote blue in 2020.
The Democrats have had trouble getting our VA stuff figured out but we’re well aware the Republicans want us to actually just die in an alley somewhere.
I’m glad that the wannabe dictator has pissed y’all off. Sorry about how he fucked y’all over, but it’s best that y’all don’t like him
the military isn’t pissed off at trump and the comment you’re responding to is intentionally misleading; less that 1% of people from the military force supported biden in majority numbers.
It’s just about time for a MASSIVE march on Washington. These clowns are way too comfortable.
The Supreme Court is out of hand with zero pushback.
Hate to say it, but protests and marches do jack shit these days in terms of pressuring our leaders.
If there were anything approaching a general strike they would panic. They just don’t give a shit when it’s several thousand people on a weekend in NYC with their striking permits. Why would they? That’s a small parade. St. Patrick’s Day is a larger disruption for the city.
If you put an actually large number of people there, they will listen.
No, not really. One of the great america propagandizing myths is that protests are effective. They’re not, they can easily be ignored. What does work is organized strikes and planned disruptions of key targets with protests.
In certain forms, or in conjunction with other forms of activism it can still work. For example tree sit ins to prevent logging.
Occupy wall street, BLM, the protests when Row v Wade were overturned all largely accomplished nothing on their own.
Dude, the entire reason Ukraine isn’t a Russian puppet anymore is they got enough people together to stop it.
In Vietnam the great anti war demonstrations didn’t stop the war on their own but they grew into such a movement that the politicians were forced to stop. It was such a thing that the evil guy torpedoed peace negotiations just so he could be the one to have peace negotiations.
Large enough groups of people absolutely have an effect, directly or indirectly depending on the exact situation. BLM didn’t solve police brutality but it forced the adoption of body cameras and brought about the end of qualified immunity in at least one state. It made it okay for prosecutors to charge cops criminally, so they don’t get voted out for it in the next AG election. The Roe v Wade demonstrations got abortion on the ballot in several states, and it won on 4 out of 6. 5 states are going to have ballot referendums in November with possibly 5 more.
If you’re looking for the crowd to solve the issue that day then you don’t understand how building a political movement works.
I have grown up pretty much my entire life hearing and thinking that protests are the way to bring about change, but everyone conveniently leaves out the fact that you have to build that political movement too.
People want to show up for a protest and be done, many people don’t want to do the work to be an activist and work for change, and honestly I don’t blame them.
Hell I know people who went to BLM protests, Palestine protests and pro choice protests… But don’t vote, so sorry if I seem overly critical of protesting. I’m just sick of prevalent idea that it’s all you need to do.
I would just be careful of rolling that over into protests are useless or people who just protest are useless. Everyone is playing a part. Although they really should be voting too.
This is exactly the correct take. Other fantastic examples include Ghandi and Nelson Mandela.
I think MLK had something to say about that and what it leads to
Just about?
The tolerance you all show will never not infuriate me.
The entire country of France is yelling at the TV rn
I wonder if they do consulting work.