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    Wishful thinking from Bernie. For fucks sake:

    politics is showmanship, not an intellectual endeavor.

    I fucking hate that, but it is the immutable truth.

    You NEED a charismatic leader to win. Biden needs to fuck off.

    I will ALWAYS cast my vote to most effectively suppress the republican traitor filth. But Biden’s a goner.

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      Exactly. I cannot fucking believe he can say with a straight face that it’s not an entertainment contest. It’s the biggest American Idol contest there is and sure as shit isn’t a job interview.

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      I will ALWAYS cast my vote to most effectively suppress the republican traitor filth.

      And so you’re going to vote for Biden, yes?

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      It seems like the establishment is hell bent on making the choice Biden or Harris and Harris might be the only person less likely to win.

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      Incorrect.

      You are the reason conservatives win elections, because you tell Democrats not to vote for Gore because he’s boring or Hillary because she’s ill, or Biden because he’s old.

      None of these irrelevant insults are stopping these people from doing their job.

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          Don’t worry. They’re obviously gaslighting you. You undermined their entire argument and yet, they persist. How odd.

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          Loudly proclaiming a specific, unpopular fact is the opposite of burying my head in the sand.

          You’re upset because you’ve been called out for burying your head in the sand.

          The bandwagon is easy and comfortable and wrong here.

          Bernie is right.

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      I will ALWAYS cast my vote to most effectively suppress the republican traitor filth. But Biden’s a goner.

      If by goner, you mean you’re not voting for him- then this is contradictory.

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              No, I’m making the suggestion that D can and has changed in the past and that supporting them blindly forever is not wise.

              Biden was fighting for segregation at the end of the day. This isn’t 1866 history, the Southern Strategy happened in the 1960s

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            I can’t consider voting for traitors. So repubs are off the table. I will always vote against them. They’re worthless filth.

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              Right but it wasn’t that long ago that D was the hardcore racist party.

              To blindly support a party no matter what is not something anyone should ever do or proclaim.

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                I think it’s pretty obvious that if the Democratic Party changed that drastically, the person you replied to would change their opinion. They are saying that because, at present, Republicans are far, far more dangerous.

                Also, Democrats have been championing civil rights since JFK. Saying 1960 was not that long ago is silly. Suffering that 1866, which is when the poster you posted was made, is not that long ago when it comes to American politics is not even rational.

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                  So why don’t people say that instead of such extremist language like “no matter what”?

                  Words matter. Blindly supporting or pretending you will blindly support a shit party because the other is worse is in no way shape or form a good thing.

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                    I interpreted what they said as “in this election”.

                    And even then, I also knew (from context) that they wouldn’t continue to vote Democrat if the party changed so drastically.

                    Words matter, but so do context and inferences/implications

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            Imagine digging back 158 years to find an example of a Democrat being racist, and thinking you have a point.

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          That’s good to see. Thank you! Hopefully we can have some good things happen by next election and get someone better by then.