Tigers, Leopards, Mice.
What? I’m at the zoo, actually.
Panthers, Elephants, Rats
They have every thing here!
You know what the worst kind of thing is with WW2 stuff? Being into historical tanks and planes while still believing that war is pretty shitty and the Nazis didn’t lose hard enough.
Yes, I think a tank is a cool engineering achievement. No, I don’t want to talk to you about how war crimes are actually neat. No, I don’t want to help you beat up minorities.
Exactly. WW2 is the last great period of analog engineering.
It’s also the only time racists had a technological edge going into a fight so they cling to the idea they had a chance. The overlap is frustrating. I just want to learn more about analog circuits that can be shot out of a cannon!
It’s more like Germany had a test run in Spain where they got to try out all of their new toys and strategies in a live environment. While everyone else was still planning for a new round of trench warfare.
I think it’s funny that everyone thinks that Germany had the most advanced tech they didn’t. They did have the most advanced presses and they did have more refined metallurgical processes. But that’s because they didn’t have any good local sources of iron. Just a lot of magnesium and coal.
Tldr being really good in a few Fields out of 30 odd Fields required for warfare does not make you the most technologically advanced. But it does make your industry make fewer tanks with thicker armor.
When talking about WW2 planes, I immediately remember the
cardboardSHARPEST THOUSAND FOLD STEEL Zero
Same. I do enjoy WW2 tanks, and yes, that includes German ones. And yes, I think the Tiger H1 is pretty neat.
But so was PzIV F.
And so was the Sherman.
Fw190 was an excellent plane.
So was the Hawker Hurricane.
And the F4U.I’m in it for the tech, not the fascist stuff. It’s just that it’s easier to find info on the German hardware, as long as one is able to separate facts from propaganda.
“It took 5 Shermans to take out a tiger”… …Yes. Took 5 shermans to take out anything else too. Because that was the usual operational unit.
t34 was junk, tho.
On the contrary, the T-34 was a feat of engineering, it was just forced by circumstances to optimize to different priorities. There’s a reason Guderian considered directly copying them - and why the Panther looks the way it does. Hell, there’s an argument to be made the whole T-series until Armata was just continuing the development of the T-34.
“It took 5 Shermans to take out a tiger”… …Yes. Took 5 shermans to take out anything else too. Because that was the usual operational unit.
This also demonstrates the huge manufacturing deficeit on the part of the axis
Yeah, one aspect of the German military after the fall of France is how depleted they were both in manpower and hardware. Sure, they were still a powerful army, but nowhere near their full operational strength as defined in doctrine.
If Germany were able to magically reinforce up to full strength, the outcome could have been very different (on land at least. Navy was severely lacking in most respects, even before 1939). Their manufacturing were only barely able to compete with UK and her allies at the beginning of the war, let alone USSR and the US once they entered the war.
And manpower surges during the war came at the cost of industry. On a surface level it might seem like Germany was great at reducing unemployment and all that, but the truth is that it was an act of desperation - the war economy was bleeding Germany of any and all capable adult (and many who weren’t even adult), and this is obviously not something that can be sustained in the long run. And especially concerning for russia these days is what happens when you try to turn a war economy into a civilian economy - It’s going to be a disaster. War economy uncurs a massive debt, financially and otherwise, and one day that debt needs to be paid.
Yeah, the state of the kriegsmarine is the primary reason operation sealion was so laughably stupid. There was no possible way they were ever going to make it across the channel with the world’s most powerful and second most powerful navies defending it.
What if I list all the other tanks as well? (I play an unhealthy amount of War Thunder)
I can do that for the airframes, and most the boats fuck ground.
I play all three now and then. Mostly ground, though. I grinded through German aviation all the way mostly to have supporting aircraft for ground battles. And I boat around in Naval to grind SL.
For clarity, I was saying that I have played All Nations to at least 4.0 however, Germany is my main France is my secondary and USA is the third most played in my roster.
Germany main, here. US to about 8.0, USSR to about 7.0
I have a neighbor who claims to be a historian. specialized in civil war history. specifically the south.
unsurprisingly they voted for an orange bastard.
It’s easy to filter out the heeraboos by probing which B-word they use to describe German land doctrine.
Bewegungskrieg (I may have spelled that incorrectly) was the actual doctrine, and yes, it was an innovative precursor to today’s land-air battle. Blitzkrieg was just a slang.
Today I learned I’m a heeraboo. Is blitzkrieg really just slang for bewegungskrieg?
You spelled it right :)
“I have never used the word Blitzkrieg, because it is a completely stupid word” - the little man with the weird moustache
I think the little mustache weirdo was among those who actually used it. In other words, probably without shocking anyone, Hitler was a Heeraboo
History majors sounds off
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Thank you for your service, and I’m sorry for all the repeats
“Aber hört Mal zu Alter, der Leopard ist immer noch…” 😑
Panzer 1, Panzer 2, Panzer 3…
Krg.md-53, Hf-klg.8, FS-3 Rgh. …
