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    Sadly no. The way they turned it around was very clever.

    So they said that only official presidential business is immune, but were ambiguous what that actually means, so inevitably they made it so it would go through them to determine what is the official business.

    Second thing is that they picked up from their ass that Constitution also says that no official business can be used in any trial, even if it is unrelated. This not only jeopardizes all the indictments he had, it possibly will negate the New York trial.

    trump already submitted request to have it referred based on this SCOTUS ruling.

    This election might be the last free election we have. And even if trump loses it will still not be over.

    Please vote and make your friends and family vote. And not just for president but also for the Congress.

    Edit: I also recommend everyone a book “On Tyranny: Twenty Lessons From the Twentieth Century” (there’s also reading on YouTube) all the warning signs are present. The more people are aware what it is at stake the higher chance that this can be stopped.

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      I also recommend everyone a book “On Tyranny: Twenty Lessons From the Twentieth Century”

      In case it makes a difference to someone, it’s a pretty short book.

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      How does one prove whether or not something is official business if official business can’t be used in any trial?

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        The “unbiased” judge will define what is allowed in the trial or not. And the prosecutor can appeal that decision and hope the higher judge is not also bought and paid for by the criminal president.

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          Until it eventually hits the Supreme Court and they decide what is and isn’t an official act based on what political party the President is affiliated with.

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            I wonder how that would work if the act was against them. I mean he could assassinate the entire Supreme Court because of the war or drugs or whatever, and then who stops him?

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        For all intents and purposes does. Just SCOTUS made itself as a final check on what is an official act and what isn’t.

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        Trump could kill anyone and they would determine that it was official business. On the other hand, Biden could have the Republican judges executed and replaced with sycophants who could rule that this also was an official act. It’s a bad ruling.

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          He can’t appoint justices without Senate approval. He only needs 50 Senators to approve though. The rest can be bombed for reasons that apparently don’t matter.

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        Unless he signs an executive order. It doesn’t get much more official than that.

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      So officially dissolve the Supreme Court and instate a new pack of judges and let those judges decide if it was an “Official Act” and thus totally legal.

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        The NY trial was unrelated to his presidential business anyways. It was about private property and fraud relating therein.

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          But also, other states that have indicted him for Jan 6th activity are unaffected by this, regardless of how Trump could spin this.

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        We are dealing with an openly partisan court. Normally this wouldn’t affect it, but they already broke a lot of rules.