The basic gist: a lot of the early promotion of Trump, “TheDonald,” etc…got its start on 4chan. Pepe the Frog. Qanon nonsense. It was the first place I also noticed the trend of (specifically interracial) removed porn with weirdly divisive messaging/themes, before it became a trending theme on every mainstream porn site.
If you look into what Russia does/has done in the U.S., the goal is always to sow division. The means are often irrelevant. Though they’ve had great success supporting the right, they also create fake groups/initiatives on the left, the general goal being to widen the social rift. Our racism problem as a country has seemingly been a frequent target, for obvious reasons. And, in short, I can think of few things more inflammatory to a racist, white MAGA person than, “Black men can fuck your women better than you.”
“removed porn” may have been too broad. I’m not saying they invented removed porn, nor interracial porn, etc…etc… Only that I believe they may have seen it as a potential wedge to promote in their information efforts, particularly when accompanied by weirdly divisive, aggressive messaging.
I could also be wrong/crazy, and I wouldn’t bet anything important on it, but I figured it was a fun one to throw out there, given the question.
I’ve been saying this for at least 12 years now. 4chan has always been an interesting case study. There was (I haven’t been back to look in years) also the curious war on /d/ over eastern/western art with Dimitry’s works being accepted as eastern due to being Russian. Which fair enough, yea Russia is in Asia, but that’s not really the point. The point was creating positive association between dopamine mining (porn) and Russia for people who felt marginalized for their interests. That Bannon specifically pointed to 4chan as a vector for radicalization, well… It’s very interesting that so many interests that almost exclusively thrived on 4chan rose into mainstream acknowledgement around 2016.
This was all furthered on Reddit in the more offbeat porn-focused subs with blatant intrusions of racially charged ideas into any and all genres they could find but with a special attention paid to anything that repeatedly fetishized a loss of control/personal responsibility/agency (removedoldry, hypnotism, coercion, etc)
Getting those messages tangled into things people have fetishized and generally felt shameful about is a hell of a way to hijack dopamine to create a false positive association between the ideas and the act.
In a way, we might have to feel gratitude toward OnlyFans models, Tumblr users, and maybe just gen-Z as a whole, for reframing a lot of those same interests in a more sex positive and silly manner - to the degree that it is not uncommon to see a blue collar working class man making light of himself wearing panties as daily wear on Instagram. Not exactly niche and shameful now is it?
Ok, I’ll bite.
Why?
The basic gist: a lot of the early promotion of Trump, “TheDonald,” etc…got its start on 4chan. Pepe the Frog. Qanon nonsense. It was the first place I also noticed the trend of (specifically interracial) removed porn with weirdly divisive messaging/themes, before it became a trending theme on every mainstream porn site.
If you look into what Russia does/has done in the U.S., the goal is always to sow division. The means are often irrelevant. Though they’ve had great success supporting the right, they also create fake groups/initiatives on the left, the general goal being to widen the social rift. Our racism problem as a country has seemingly been a frequent target, for obvious reasons. And, in short, I can think of few things more inflammatory to a racist, white MAGA person than, “Black men can fuck your women better than you.”
“removed porn” may have been too broad. I’m not saying they invented removed porn, nor interracial porn, etc…etc… Only that I believe they may have seen it as a potential wedge to promote in their information efforts, particularly when accompanied by weirdly divisive, aggressive messaging.
I could also be wrong/crazy, and I wouldn’t bet anything important on it, but I figured it was a fun one to throw out there, given the question.
I’ve been saying this for at least 12 years now. 4chan has always been an interesting case study. There was (I haven’t been back to look in years) also the curious war on /d/ over eastern/western art with Dimitry’s works being accepted as eastern due to being Russian. Which fair enough, yea Russia is in Asia, but that’s not really the point. The point was creating positive association between dopamine mining (porn) and Russia for people who felt marginalized for their interests. That Bannon specifically pointed to 4chan as a vector for radicalization, well… It’s very interesting that so many interests that almost exclusively thrived on 4chan rose into mainstream acknowledgement around 2016.
This was all furthered on Reddit in the more offbeat porn-focused subs with blatant intrusions of racially charged ideas into any and all genres they could find but with a special attention paid to anything that repeatedly fetishized a loss of control/personal responsibility/agency (removedoldry, hypnotism, coercion, etc)
Getting those messages tangled into things people have fetishized and generally felt shameful about is a hell of a way to hijack dopamine to create a false positive association between the ideas and the act.
In a way, we might have to feel gratitude toward OnlyFans models, Tumblr users, and maybe just gen-Z as a whole, for reframing a lot of those same interests in a more sex positive and silly manner - to the degree that it is not uncommon to see a blue collar working class man making light of himself wearing panties as daily wear on Instagram. Not exactly niche and shameful now is it?
Ah, I know what you’re getting at. Honestly, it sounds incredibly plausible. 4chan’s porn has always been…off.