• turmacar@lemmy.world
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      5 months ago

      RotJ is where Lucas started to not have pushback on story ideas. It still mostly works but some silliness is leaking through. Especially in the Special Edition, but Empire is the only one that really wasn’t effected by those.

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        5 months ago

        100% agree! RotJ is where the cracks started to show. I think people forget this because all the nonsense that followed, starting with the Special Editions, makes RotJ seem restrained in comparison.

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        5 months ago

        I honestly cannot believe you forgot about the Skywalker twins.

        “I’ve always known.”

        Somehow.

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          Still not as stupid as George’s decision to have Leia remember their mother as “beautiful but sad” and then have Padme die two minutes after Leia is born. Like, damn, Leia’s got a good memory.

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            I would be generous and interpret that as Leah remembering Bail Organa’s wife (who it must remembered, she thought was her mother until like, an hour before that conversation), or else constructing memories of an ideal woman.

            At least, until Obi Wan, but whatever

            Your point still stands. She only found out she was adopted like an hour prior.

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              She only found out she was adopted like an hour prior.

              Wait, who did she find this out from? Her adoptive parents were presumably killed in Star Wars with the destruction of Alderaan.

              It’s also implied that she knew she was adopted. Luke asks her “do you remember your mother, your real mother?” and Leia replies “Just a little bit. She died when I was very young”.

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      I’ve always believed that the Star Wars universe needs a faction that is cognizant that the cycle of Jedi / Sith is irrational fanaticism of ideology and the force is ideologically neutral.

      I have always believed the force is always meant not to be balanced via organization, but balanced per person, that the truth is light side and dark side are just concepts and bad conclusions based on centuries of orthodoxy.

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        I kept thinking they’d go there, and they still haven’t.

        The Jedi sense of balance isn’t balanced at all.

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      5 months ago

      Bilbo Bagshot : What about the Ewoks? They were rubbish! You don’t complain about them!

      Tim : Yeah, but Jar Jar Binks makes the Ewoks look like fucking Shaft!