Lemmy.VG
  • Communities
  • Create Post
  • heart
    Support Lemmy
  • search
    Search
  • Login
  • Sign Up
Fat Tony@lemmy.world to Today I Learned@lemmy.worldEnglish · 8 months ago

TIL the generic but world famous 'Happy Birthday to You' song was actually copyrighted until 2016

marketrealist.com

external-link
message-square
28
link
fedilink
264
external-link

TIL the generic but world famous 'Happy Birthday to You' song was actually copyrighted until 2016

marketrealist.com

Fat Tony@lemmy.world to Today I Learned@lemmy.worldEnglish · 8 months ago
message-square
28
link
fedilink
Happily, “Happy Birthday to You” Is in the Public Domain Now
marketrealist.com
external-link
Who owns the rights to “Happy Birthday to You”? The celebratory song was at the center of a landmark copyright lawsuit in the 2010s.
alert-triangle
You must log in or register to comment.
  • 👍Maximum Derek👍@discuss.tchncs.de
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    67
    ·
    8 months ago

    There was a long running TV Trope caused by shows not wanting to license happy birthday.

    • FooBarrington@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      32
      ·
      edit-2
      8 months ago

      Scene starts

      🎶 tooo yooouuu! 🎶

      I never would have thought this is a legit way of circumventing copyright. Holy shit.

      Obligatory Community clip

      • SatyrSack@lemmy.sdf.org
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        11
        ·
        8 months ago

        30 Rock did it the other way around while also poking fun at the trope itself

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MymL4feJOhs

    • cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      6
      ·
      8 months ago

      Crazy ! I didn’t know that

  • ssfckdt@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    54
    ·
    8 months ago

    Wellllllllll

    It actually wasn’t, but someone claimed it was, and would sue people who used it. Most would settle and agree not to use it. This is also why most chain restaurants had their own alternative birthday songs.

    It was only that in 2016 somebody actually said to them “prove it” and took them to court, which found their copyright claim to be without merit.

    Incidentally, there is no penalty for this.

    • Notyou@sopuli.xyz
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      edit-2
      8 months ago

      Is that what happened? I knew there was some court copyright thing about the song that changed around then. I had no idea it was just someone claiming they owned it and got called out. 😂

      Some restaurants started singing the normal Happy Birthday song and I kinda miss those corny restaurant ones.

  • Optional@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    52
    ·
    8 months ago

    Which was obviously bullshit (that they were given a copyright). The 2016 date is how long it took for some group to take the time and effort to get it thrown out finally.

    • CosmicTurtle0 [he/him]@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      8
      ·
      8 months ago

      So it’s a bit more complicated than that.

      I believe it was Warner Brothers who held the copyright but it had been disputed whether they actually owned the rights. But it’s one of those situations where taking them to court to find out was going to cost a lot more than paying the license.

      WB didn’t have to prove they owned it to get people to pay. They only needed to show that they held the copyright to it and the history of other people paying did the rest. Sort of like paying protection to a local mob.

      So when WB finally got sued and they had to show receipts, the judge decided against them and we got something in the public domain.

      • Optional@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        8
        ·
        8 months ago

        A good write up here: https://time.com/3976577/happy-birthday-copyright-history/

        • Slovene@feddit.nl
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          5
          ·
          8 months ago

          I don’t feel like reading atm, can I get a link to a LegalEagle vid about it?

          • kambusha@sh.itjust.works
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            5
            ·
            8 months ago

            You joke, but he actually did: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

            • Slovene@feddit.nl
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              8 months ago

              That’s actually very informative, thank you.

        • ssfckdt@lemmy.blahaj.zone
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          8 months ago

          the very idea of a regular birthday party wasn’t really widespread before the era

          Can we go back to that? I hate birthdays.

  • scutiger@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    17
    ·
    8 months ago

    What day is today?
    It’s Nibbler’s birthday!
    What a day for a birthday.
    Let’s all have some cake!

    And you smell like one too!

    • gnuplusmatt@reddthat.com
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      6
      ·
      8 months ago

      that Futurama DVD commentary is where I learnt that Happy Birthday was Copyrighted

  • LandedGentry@lemmy.zip
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    16
    ·
    edit-2
    8 months ago

    deleted by creator

  • KittenBiscuits@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    13
    ·
    8 months ago

    I always thought this is why Olive Garden, Red Lobster, whatever 80s/90s fad chain restaurant sang their own birthday songs for patrons.

    Happy happy birthday…<br> It’s your special day…<br><br> happy happy birthday<br> That’s why we’re here to say HEY!<br><br> Happy happy birthday<br> may alll your dreams come true<br><br> happy happy birthday<br> from Bennigans to you…HEY!

    • qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      8 months ago

      That’s what I heard about Chevy’s, too.

  • SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    11
    ·
    8 months ago

    I remember a bunch of Yout×be videos being taken down due to people singing it. So stupid…

    • Sidyctism II.@discuss.tchncs.de
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      8 months ago

      i cant fathom why you would censor “youtube” nor why you would use a special character for that purpose.
      i am intrigued.
      subscribed.

  • ExtantHuman@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    6
    ·
    8 months ago

    Wow, it hit public domain THAT long ago?

    • Fredselfish@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      7
      ·
      8 months ago

      Actually it hit public domain way before that, but it went to court in 2016. I remember it was pretty big fucking deal. Because it was public domain in freaking 90’s. Whoever held copyright never updated it, yet no one was aware of it until someone went to court to challenge the copyright.

  • Final Remix@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    5
    ·
    8 months ago

    Happy Birthday Lisa is better anyway.

  • thesohoriots@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    4
    ·
    8 months ago

    Stevie Wonder version is superior anyways

  • throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    3
    ·
    edit-2
    7 months ago

    deleted by creator

  • ilinamorato@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    3
    ·
    8 months ago

    Aaron Sorkin’s criminally-underappreciated “Sports Night” had a subplot about this.

  • jsomae@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    8 months ago

    It was not copyrighted until 2016. Seeing as it’s from the 1800s, that would not be possible.

  • dickalan@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    8 months ago

    One of my non-happy birthday songs

  • Twig@sopuli.xyz
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    8 months ago

    Did this only apply to the US?

Today I Learned@lemmy.world

til@lemmy.world

Subscribe from Remote Instance

Create a post
You are not logged in. However you can subscribe from another Fediverse account, for example Lemmy or Mastodon. To do this, paste the following into the search field of your instance: [email protected]

What did you learn today? Share it with us!

We learn something new every day. This is a community dedicated to informing each other and helping to spread knowledge.

The rules for posting and commenting, besides the rules defined here for lemmy.world, are as follows:

Rules (interactive)


Rule 1- All posts must begin with TIL. Linking to a source of info is optional, but highly recommended as it helps to spark discussion.

** Posts must be about an actual fact that you have learned, but it doesn’t matter if you learned it today. See Rule 6 for all exceptions.**



Rule 2- Your post subject cannot be illegal or NSFW material.

Your post subject cannot be illegal or NSFW material. You will be warned first, banned second.



Rule 3- Do not seek mental, medical and professional help here.

Do not seek mental, medical and professional help here. Breaking this rule will not get you or your post removed, but it will put you at risk, and possibly in danger.



Rule 4- No self promotion or upvote-farming of any kind.

That’s it.



Rule 5- No baiting or sealioning or promoting an agenda.

Posts and comments which, instead of being of an innocuous nature, are specifically intended (based on reports and in the opinion of our crack moderation team) to bait users into ideological wars on charged political topics will be removed and the authors warned - or banned - depending on severity.



Rule 6- Regarding non-TIL posts.

Provided it is about the community itself, you may post non-TIL posts using the [META] tag on your post title.



Rule 7- You can't harass or disturb other members.

If you vocally harass or discriminate against any individual member, you will be removed.

Likewise, if you are a member, sympathiser or a resemblant of a movement that is known to largely hate, mock, discriminate against, and/or want to take lives of a group of people, and you were provably vocal about your hate, then you will be banned on sight.

For further explanation, clarification and feedback about this rule, you may follow this link.



Rule 8- All comments should try to stay relevant to their parent content.

Rule 9- Reposts from other platforms are not allowed.

Let everyone have their own content.



Rule 10- Majority of bots aren't allowed to participate here.

Unless included in our Whitelist for Bots, your bot will not be allowed to participate in this community. To have your bot whitelisted, please contact the moderators for a short review.



Partnered Communities

You can view our partnered communities list by following this link. To partner with our community and be included, you are free to message the moderators or comment on a pinned post.

Community Moderation

For inquiry on becoming a moderator of this community, you may comment on the pinned post of the time, or simply shoot a message to the current moderators.

Visibility: Public
globe

This community can be federated to other instances and be posted/commented in by their users.

  • 497 users / day
  • 1.4K users / week
  • 5.02K users / month
  • 12.2K users / 6 months
  • 4 local subscribers
  • 27K subscribers
  • 1.13K Posts
  • 27.1K Comments
  • Modlog
  • mods:
  • Thekingoflorda@lemmy.world
  • Rooki@lemmy.world
  • _MoveSwiftly@lemmy.world
  • DriftingDeep@lemmy.world
  • eric@lemmy.world
  • Decoy321@lemmy.world
  • BE: 0.19.11
  • Modlog
  • Legal
  • Instances
  • Docs
  • Code
  • join-lemmy.org