• Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    6 hours ago

    Were do the compromises stop?

    “Compromise” is the ultimate vague excuse for dishonest politicians - it justifies everything and is the ultimate salesman argument.

    Talk of “need for compromise” is right now used by the worst amongst the Democrats to support Republican legislation and has backed 4 decades of the Democrat Party moving so far to the Right that they’re as Rightwing Reagan was on Economics and even more to the Right that he was in subjects like immigration.

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      5 hours ago

      You keep making bullshit blanket statements. You need to understand that not all compromises are the same – what you compromise on and why matters. AOC was not ever going to get the party to budge on Zionism, so what’s the fucking point of destroying her credibility and effectiveness on other issues by tilting at windmills?

      Speaking of which, you have no credibility and I don’t give a fuck about anything you have to say. Go away.

      • Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        5 hours ago

        Mate, given the style of your interaction with heavy recourse to personal insults and the low (low, low, oh so very low) reasoning and intellectual level it proves, going away from your posts is a great advice.

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          2 hours ago

          For everybody in the back:

          Polite isn’t right. Polite isn’t smart. Polite. Isn’t. Nice.

          You’re here wasting time painting AOC of all people as a goddamn zionist.

          Nobody needs to be polite to obviously bad faith (or deranged) bullshit like that.

          • Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            52 minutes ago

            Insulting random internet strangers is really just the discourse equivalent of public masturbation: you’re doing it for self-pleasure and most passerbyes just turn their face away so as not to have to see it, except for a tiny fraction of people who actually enjoy seeing somebody have a good wank in the middle of the street whilst caring naught for whatever bullshit they’re saying whilst they wank.

            Insulting delivers pleasure to the kind of intellect and type of personality that believes others have a low enough mental age that they will feel bad when a random internet stranger which they’ve never seen before insults them, something that they themselves only believe because they would feel like that in the other person’s shoes.

            Meanwhile a fraction of passerbyes will give positive feedback, same as a fight on a street might get a handful of people who stop, stare and maybe even egg on the combatants. However on the street it’s plain to see that almost everybody just moves on and tries to ignore the fight, whilst on the Internet, one can’t seen those who just “move one trying to ignore it” and might convince themselves that they have support for their style of comment.

            The real reason for Politeness is not the “you should do it because it’s the right thing to do” that parents tell their rebel teenagers before their brains have fully developed, it’s that the pleasure some people get from being rude, is often more than outweighed by the long term effects on the audience of being frequently impolite, which are worse the smaller the environment and hence the bigger the chance others will cross paths with you having made their minds about your character by a previous display of rudeness.

            Whilst Reddit is a city, were people can get away with a lot of shit (far beyond mere rudeness), Lemmy is still more of a village, so the negative effects will be greater.

            I shouldn’t have to explain in a step by step way this pretty basic adult knowledge that most people figure out by themselves when they become mature adults about the actual concrete benefits of behaving in certain ways rather than others in social contexts.

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      5 hours ago

      Oh yeah, this is the totally brilliant line of thinking that helped put Trump back in office. You’ll forgive me if I discount you entirely.

      • Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        5 hours ago

        Sure mate, keep up doing the same as until now and not demanding consistency and honesty from supposedly left-of-center politicians.

        Blind following politicians making tall promises and not demanding that their actions match those promises (just like the MAGA crowd does) clearly and with now shadow of a doubt is the way for the country to be ruled in the interest of the many rather than the few, as the last 50 years of doing exactly that clearly prove.

        Keep on doing the same and expect different results, just like Einstein advised!