Like, why does a gym attract so many dickheads. I’m just there minding my own damn business when I overhear dudes talking about how they are ‘going to get so much removed for lifting’ and whatever dumb shit. It’s a constant stream of male garbage coming from all around you. My fault for not wearing headphones I guess.
Is that why you lift? Really? Are most gym bros just terminally insecure man children? Fucking hell man. Who unironically talks like that? I know I’m probably in a bubble as a sober, vegan communist but still.
This is an incredibly bad take.
Objectifying women as nothing more than their sex organs referring to having sex as “getting removed” is incredibly misogynistic. Denying that gyms are a hot bed of misogyny is just silly.
Thinking that having more casual sex is what will save the western left is fucking ridiculous.
Absolutely, and while I wouldn’t commend policing everyone around you’s language, if I heard a friend use that kind of phrase I’d definitely make a mental note that I need to have a conversation about masculinity with them.
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Not a very dialectical take lol
I agree that it is pretty minor by itself, but seriously, men acting this way consistently is the death by a thousand cuts that keeps women out of a lot of spaces. There’s nothing wrong with identifying it and countering it.
Oh no, actually, I’m being dumb, I just reread the post thanks to this. I assumed op’s gender like an asshole. My bad.
I do think the debate could be slightly different if OP was male, and there was no one else around but that’s not relevant
Pretty sure OP is male though (apologies if I misconstrued this) and I don’t see how that should matter here either way. Overhearing this sort of talk is grating and disturbing regardless of your gender, it’s always crude, dehumanizing and infuriating to put up with, to varying degrees I’ll grant you but it doesn’t become less or more acceptable based on your identity, it’s always bad.
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I’m not arguing against casual sex. I am arguing against dehumanization of the opposite sex and your bizzare assertion that “anti-sexism” is going to be the death of the wester left. (if that would even be substantially different from its current state)
The western left are not anti-sex. If you aren’t getting any that isn’t an ideological failing of everyone else.
He wasn’t saying that casual sex is wrong, he said using that phrase is wrong because it reduces women down to just their genitals. There’s obviously a line you gotta draw between being cool with people expressing sexual desires, and letting those desires clash with others’ humanities.
And yes, it would be a bit ridiculous if you made a scene every time you heard a man use a phrase like that, just like it would be ridiculous to make a scene every time some white person made an unwitting racist comment. But you gotta learn to spot things like that and counter them when you have conversations with men you trust.
I misinterpreted their comment and wasn’t really looking at the big picture.
I don’t think it’s an inherently dehumanizing phrase in every context but maybe I’m just being needlessly contentious. I agree that it’s not something anyone with social awareness would say